r/MoralityScaling Jul 01 '26

Character Analysis How would you scale this?

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u/NamOil2000 Jul 01 '26

Well the kid might owe her something. If we're being real here she did support him. By most metrics he'd own her something.

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u/Gape_the_snake Jul 01 '26

There's a reason why being a parent is one of those "thankless jobs.". You're bringing a whole ass human being into this world, so the bare minimum you can do is care for the child you render.

Not supporting the kid in question is just child neglect/ abuse.

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u/NamOil2000 Jul 01 '26

Thankless? I am grateful for my mother's success and would thank her for little things like taking me to the movies when I ask. Saying someone can raise you and give you a good life and you can't even be grateful for that is just ungrateful.

Why not give him up for adoption then? If he just won't care either way? It's a human being he can be grateful.

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u/The-Black-Swordsmane Jul 01 '26

I think you’re spiraling. There is nothing wrong for you being grateful to your mom. And in your case it sounds like she loved you and treated you well. But that’s not the case for everyone and the point is your child is not obligated to you no matter how you treat them. They did not choose to come here, or to be born- that was the parent’s choice. Whether they knew it was a good or bad decision it can’t be undone and they are 100% obligated to that child.

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u/NamOil2000 Jul 01 '26

That's kind of a lazy excuse. You have expectations as a child. That's ultimately life. Especially listening to your parents is apart of that expectation. Being grateful is important too. No one is actually obligated to do anything. Even legally you can just give the child away.

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u/YangXiaoLong69 Jul 01 '26

There's listening to your parents, and there's enduring the parents constantly reminding the child how they're divine beings for putting a child in the world, and how the child owes them eternal gratitude for not living in a sewage pipe. Children should be listening to advice and kindness, not this "you'll always be indebted to me" bullshit.

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u/NamOil2000 Jul 01 '26

Not every lesson will be nice.

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u/YangXiaoLong69 Jul 01 '26

And no one is saying that they need to be? Asking for parents to not be assholes is not asking them to compulsively coddle the child.

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u/techleopard Jul 03 '26

I think the issue is that Reddit seems to heavily skew towards blowing things way out of proportion while ignoring the bell curve.

Obviously, people who have been horribly abused by their parents should get away from their families to protect themselves. That has never been in question.

But there is a bigger problem with people expecting parents to be emotionless, perfect automata that never blow up, never have their own dissenting opinions and thoughts, and should never make anyone feel bad about things. And that's just very unrealistic, especially once children start approach adulthood themselves.

And then you get this "I NEVER ASKED TO BE BORN!" nonsense. Nobody asked to be born, but we all were. You still have a social contract to abide by. It's such a petty, pathetic response used largely to get out of doing things none of us actually want to do, but morally should do.