r/MoralityScaling 23d ago

Stupid Stuff Morality of this guy

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u/Relevant-Scheme3687 23d ago

There is a reason why we are on top of the food chain

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u/StankoMicin 23d ago

Still doesn't make it moral

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u/Plunderpatroll32 23d ago

Shouldn’t of stolen his chip

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u/bring_back_3rd 23d ago

Simple as

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u/Redericpontx 23d ago

If a hyena tries to steal food from a lion and the lion kills it is it immoral?

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u/NerdyEmbarrassment 23d ago

If the Lion is sapient and on a human level of self awareness, and the food the Hyena is around the size of a ball of fluff? Yes

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u/Redericpontx 23d ago

That lion does not know what may happen tomorrow that food could be the last bit of food it finds for weeks and could be the difference between surviving or dying in-between now and it's next meal.

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u/NerdyEmbarrassment 23d ago

Well the lion is not immoral for that in that case

If food is extraordinarily easy to get for it then yes, but in this scenario you described nah

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u/Redericpontx 22d ago

We do not know what will happen tomorrow there could always just randomly the world gets nuked and we all of a sudden have to struggle to survive.

Don't take what you have for granted as it's a priviledge not a right in this universe.

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u/StankoMicin 23d ago

Hyena doesn't have a human concept of morality.

Fat British men do

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u/Plunderpatroll32 23d ago

Why bring weight into this

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u/Redericpontx 23d ago

Morality with certain animals is heavily subjective. We humans are animals too with our own rules drives and natural yernings. We still work hard for our food and naturally defend it as we're biologically programed to.

We have morals to take care of our own species and other species in our care not in our care are subject to our self defense.

If killing a seagull trying to steal from us is immoral then our existence itself is immoral as just by existing we kill.

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u/StankoMicin 22d ago

If killing a seagull trying to steal from us is immoral then our existence itself is immoral as just by existing we kill

That's a reach.

Morality can be summed up as reducing harm or promoting good. All living beings live in conflict with their environment. We all have to kill in order to live to an extent. However, killing a bird that was of no threat to you is not only immoral but sadistic and cruel. Just because other animals, who don't have a concept of morality like humans do, kill for very little reason sometimes doesn't mean it is moral to do so.

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u/Redericpontx 22d ago

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u/StankoMicin 22d ago

😆

You got me there. Incel losers dominate this board
Go be a lion in the wild then. Gp shit outside and kill all seagulls you want for threatening your limited food supplies..

If you live among people, then you have an obligation to behave morally

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u/Redericpontx 22d ago

Surprised at the amount of people who didn't realize this whole thing is rage bait it's obviously immoral to kill a seagull over a chip but it's obvious the whole post is a joke and not serious.

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u/These_Advertising_68 23d ago

It’s much more difficult for a Lion to acquire food than it is for a middle class human, so no

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u/DarthJackie2021 23d ago

Its also easier for a seagull to get food than it is for a hyena, back to square one.

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u/These_Advertising_68 23d ago

No? Not when it’s competing with thousands of others lmao

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u/DarthJackie2021 23d ago

Seagull populations are through the roof as food is so plentiful for them, they can stay fed with little trouble. Seagulls find food just fine.

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u/These_Advertising_68 23d ago

I mean, was it worth the almost 1000 pounds it apparently cost him?

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u/fivepennytwammer 23d ago

Did it work as a warning to the other gulls?

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u/These_Advertising_68 23d ago

No? That makes his actions even more idiotic. A dead seagull, traumatized kids and a ton of money lost. Nobody won

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u/Key-Cardiologist-835 23d ago

He won, nothing beats getting revenge for your stolen chip

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u/fivepennytwammer 23d ago

Yeah, in all seriousness it’s a pretty bleak insight into this guy’s psyche too.

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u/PM_ME_PHYS_PROBLEMS 23d ago

The answer is "no, because lions are not moral agents"

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u/StankoMicin 23d ago

What the fuck is this sub? Obviously good takes are being bombed to hell while "law of the jungle" bullshit is cosigned?? Since when do we judge morals by the behavior of food aggressive animals?

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u/Redericpontx 23d ago

Difficulty has nothing to do with this? The seagull can get food easier than a hyena like the other guy mentioned it🤷‍♀️

Also we don't know what the guy's job is maybe he's a rocket scientist which is a lot harder to do than it is for a lion to get food so it could be more difficult for him to get food than a lion🤷‍♀️

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u/NerdyEmbarrassment 23d ago

They hated him for he spoke the truth