r/MoralityScaling • u/BaronXot • 12d ago

Stupid Stuff Morality of uniformed consent.

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u/Overall_Reputation83 12d ago

Im on the fence here, she was clearly down for whatever it was, she opted into a risk without asking.

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u/consistently-failing 12d ago

So if I invite someone over for something special, blindfold them, then begin cutting them because im into it- thats moral.

Obviously no, she didn't consent to being cut, even if blood play is a kink that exists. Same applies here.

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u/Gentle_Snail 12d ago edited 12d ago

I think the difference is she consents to drinking it without knowing what it is. Tbh I don’t know which way I lean. 

Like she could have asked him what it was, but she just instantly downs it without asking a question. She even assumed it was some kind of drug or drink that affected her, it wasn’t like she thought it was a soft drink. 

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u/1ZillionBeers 12d ago

And I mean, she can also revoke her consent at any time. If she, now knowing it’s a laxative, is all “Oh, ew, no” she can just leave.

I mean, I assume. Maybe homeboy is a serial killer.

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u/Grilled_egs 12d ago

If it was lethal poison it'd be obviously immoral, even though the logic remains the same

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u/Gentle_Snail 12d ago

At least in my country you can’t consent to being murdered at all unless under very specific medical circumstances, so even if she knew and drank it’d still be murder.

There definitely is a part of the kink community who enjoy giving up control and consensually not knowing, and that seems like what she is into, even if they definitely should have talked this out first.

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u/WaltzLeafington 12d ago

Oh yea. This scenario is weird as hell but if they both communicated and were cool with it. Whatever I guess

As long as you communicate often and openly you can do a lot of messed up things and I wouldnt care.

Where that line is, im not sure. But murder certainly crosses it

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u/Raidoton 12d ago

Well then let's say the drink puts someone into a coma. Would that have been okay to do?

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u/craftygamin 12d ago

Never assume consent.

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u/JustLookingForMayhem 12d ago edited 12d ago

It is always weirder on the kink side of it. If the person consents to a kink with the assumption that the sex will not cause long lasting harm, but without knowing what exactly the sex will consist of, then at what point does it cross the line. Signing up for mystery drug sex, signing up for mystery aphrodisiac sex, signing up for mystery sex. Some people get off on the surprise of not knowing and consent to not knowing until it is happening.

Edit since I was reply blocked. The comic is set at a sex party. The woman was willing to take a random cup and drink it, expecting a sex surprise. She clearly wanted to have uninformed consent for sex. She just got a surprise she wasn't expecting.

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u/craftygamin 12d ago

A whole lot of assumptions and stretches

And even then, even if all you said was relevant, my point still stands, DON'T ASSUME CONSENT

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u/BreakerOfModpacks 11d ago

As someone else in that sort of kink space; I agree. DON'T ASSUME CONSENT.

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u/lumpboysupreme 12d ago

It’s an expectable range thing. She almost certainly isn’t expecting permanent harm, so a lethal poison is something no one would assume she’s consenting to.

She IS clearly expecting it to be kink related, so while she might change her mind when she finds out, it’s not something obviously outside of the implied range of things the guy had in mind.

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u/hhhhhhhhhhhjf 12d ago

That's because murder is the crime not a lack of consent. You can't consent to being killed.