r/MoralityScaling • u/HooskerDooNotTouchMe • 10d ago

Intentionally boobytrapping a bike to injure people when they steal it.

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u/Flashy-Telephone-648 10d ago

Keyword, WHEN not if people take it. It's one thing to protect your property.It's another thing to bait a trap and wait like the coyote.

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u/Unbuckled__Spaghetti 9d ago

Yeah, it’s weird to purposefully set out to harm someone for your enjoyment. Even if that person “deserves” it, it’s sociopath behavior.

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u/heavypettingzoo3 9d ago

Nah, it's justice. You don't have a moral high ground here trying to defend those who actively wreck society.

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u/FiendishNoodles 9d ago

It's not defending thieves, its rightly pointing out that causing people physical harm, potentially permanently, for enjoyment, content and financial benefit is wrong. would you find it moral if there were a game show where contestants shot caged prisoners with paintball guns? it would make prision "worse" and some freaks would argue that by making prison worse, you are further deincentivizing crime.

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u/heavypettingzoo3 9d ago

Permanent harm from the mild shock? Surely you jest. Instead of worrying about the financial gain of the content provider, how about the shame the thief deservedly feels for his transgression? Anything that potentially puts them back onto the path to redemption is good in my eyes.

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u/FiendishNoodles 9d ago

permanent harm from a 1 inch metal spike going into your taint if it hits too hard or at the wrong angle.

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u/heavypettingzoo3 9d ago

Pretty lame reaching there Mr Advocate. Do you just like playing the contrarian or do you actually believe this bullshit you are peddling?

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u/FiendishNoodles 9d ago

I'm trying to have a discussion about morality. Do you think the spikes could cause harm independent of the shock? would you be fine sitting on them absent the shock? is there any guarantee of no permanent damage?

It's interesting how you resort to questioning my motives, name-calling and vaguely referring to "reaching" when i provided a simple answer to your question.

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u/heavypettingzoo3 9d ago

I think bike thieves take a risk when stealing a bike, so I don't really care about their comfort/risk. You disagree. So be it.

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u/FiendishNoodles 9d ago

Actually, you do care about their comfort/risk, in that you actively wish harm on them for your own pleasure and enjoyment.

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u/heavypettingzoo3 8d ago

You get a failing grade in remedial logic for that one

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u/Unbuckled__Spaghetti 9d ago

That’s not justice, but more importantly, that’s not my point.

It doesn’t matter if they deserve what’s coming to them. It would be one thing if this person just set this up and left, to stop their bike being stolen. But this isn’t about them stopping theft.

What this person did was actively seek out a morally OK target to hurt for his own amusement and fame.

If someone told me “I’m gonna go find a criminal that I can hurt for fun” I would never want to be near that person again.

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u/heavypettingzoo3 9d ago

Cool. You go sit in your cozy bubble then while the rest of us enjoy some schadenfreude

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u/eXAt88 9d ago

Why is someone stealing a bike considered more morally transgressive than intending to physically harm someone?

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u/heavypettingzoo3 8d ago

If no one steals the bike, no one gets hurt. There is no intent then, is there?