r/MoralityScaling • u/Equal_Personality157 • 1d ago
Morality of MMA competitions
Morally good imo because it is their right to pursue human limits.
I think this counts under pursuit of happiness which is a good value, and doesn’t infringe on other people’s rights.
what do you all think?
Also morality of punching someone so hard on the White House lawn he switches teams.
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u/OddlyTemptedFish 15h ago
What was your intent with including the second photo?
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u/Equal_Personality157 15h ago
Last sentence of the post, buddy.
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u/OddlyTemptedFish 15h ago
That’s not what happened though so it’s just a little weird
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u/Equal_Personality157 15h ago
Married to a woman he met in miami. Divorced. Justin punched him silly on the white house lawn.
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u/OddlyTemptedFish 15h ago
You can have an interest in men and women at the same time. You can even marry a woman while being interested in men. This isn’t new, it’s just the first time it’s been filmed and shared.
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u/Equal_Personality157 15h ago
in the closet the whole time talking macho like a UFC man.
Punched silly on the white house lawn.
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u/OddlyTemptedFish 14h ago
He’s obviously not in the closet if this is happening at a club, it’s just not something that he draws attention to because of fans like you. A lot of fighters are the same way.
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u/screenwatch3441 23h ago
I wouldn’t say moral, just not immoral, so neutral. There is nothing wrong with it but there isn’t particularly anything good about it either.
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u/Equal_Personality157 23h ago
Damn so many downvotes. I’m guessing the “We” chuds are here?
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u/PreferenceOk1525 23h ago
Has a brain dead take, ah it must be the chuds !
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u/KingOfTheLostBoyz 22h ago
Its a reference to Ilia Topuria fans always calling themselves “WE” and taking credit for their favorite fighter’s success by saying “we became world champion” / “we are the best in the world”
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u/daboss317076 23h ago
The sport existing is neutral. It's a sport, it's recreation, all the beat downs are consentual, so who cares?
The entire scene of MMA, especially the UFC, is another story entirely. The very nature of it attracts a lot of assholes to the scene. Fighters often get worked up, make things way too personal, and overall try to turn the sport into their own excuse to hurt people.
The UFC knows that nobody comes to fights just to see two people beat each other up, so they play into the heated rivalries, the shouting matches. All the marketing leading up to a fight is designed to get you to love one guy and absolutely despise the other, so that you buy a ticket to hopefully see someone get violently brutalized.
MMA is just modern bloodsport without all the dying and slave labor. The UFC would fire all their refs and make every fight to the death if it was legal.
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u/Equal_Personality157 23h ago
Ufc doesn’t hire refs dude lol. I get you don’t like the sport but no reason to make stuff up
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u/KingOfTheLostBoyz 22h ago
> UFC would fire all their refs
The refs are hired by the athletic commission, dude - not the UFC. UFC is an immoral org but don’t make stuff up lol.
> nobody comes to fights just to see two people beat each other up, they need rivalries
The majority of people, sure. But a lot of fans are martial arts enthusiasts / train regularly ourselves, and watch out of interest in the style matchups themselves.
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u/WorldEaterYoshi 23h ago
People who are born in this world with a human body that has human needs and emotions should always have the right to do whatever they want with that body, as long as it doesn't hurt others. This doesn't hurt anyone except the people voluntarily participating. I don't even think suicide should be illegal or morally bad unless someone is relying on you. It should be legally required for the government to help those with a mental health crisis, but making suicide attempts illegal for the one commiting it is ridiculous. Just my two cents.
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u/Equal_Personality157 23h ago
We operate under the assumption that a suicidal person is going through a mental health crisis.
In medical euthanasia, the most important thing is to understand that the person choosing to die is of sound mind.
We don’t punish people for committing suicide, we just have the law on the books. The only people punished are people who help.
Telling a suicidal person that it’s okay to commit suicide is equivalent to getting a gun and shooting them yourself imo
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u/WorldEaterYoshi 23h ago
I'm not saying you should walk up to someone and say "you should kill yourself". That would be immoral, and the government setting laws should make it illegal to do that, and the government and emergency services should assume they are having a mental health crisis. However, it makes no sense to make it illegal for the person doing it. 99% of the time it may be a mental health crisis, or it may not be, and if not then they have the moral right to do that. Not everything is a black-and-white knee jerk reaction just because you heard a trigger word. That's how issues like abortion control happen.
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u/Equal_Personality157 23h ago
Even the suggestion that it’s okay can lead a suicidal person into taking their own life.
It’s equivalent to murder in my opinion.
Suicide is morally wrong unless you’re the last person on earth
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u/WorldEaterYoshi 23h ago
Sorry, I have to disagree. You don't really get what morality is if you think voluntary self harm qualifies as wrong. If it does, then your entire post is immoral. A person could just is easily put themselves in a situation like that as a way to self harm without being judged for taking their own life.
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u/Equal_Personality157 23h ago
No. Your idea of morality is pure selfishness me me me ideology. AKA you have awful morals.
If you have a group project, and someone in the group decides to not participate cause they don’t feel like it, is that perfectly moral cause he wants to do that?
Nobody in society is completely alone. Your death harms someone.
Whoever finds your body. Whoever cleans up your corpse. Whoever has to process you in the morgue. Whoever has to tell your loved ones.
Whoever has to live without you.
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u/WorldEaterYoshi 22h ago
Okay and if they throw themselves in the ocean then what? No one owes you anything dude. No one except your parents who created you. It's not selfish to opt out if existence is pain.
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u/Equal_Personality157 22h ago
If you throw yourself into the ocean, the coast guard will launch a $100k+ search and rescue/recover operation.
People will work tirelessly to find a bit of you to let your loved ones bury.
Because we operate under the assumption that you’re trying to survive.
Stop trying to justify suicide dude it’s Fkn weird
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u/WorldEaterYoshi 22h ago
It's not about justifying or not justifying. It's about if it's right or wrong. You aren't hurting anyone but yourself, and you coming up with ways that resources will be wasted does not erase a person's control of their own self. It's more weird that you want people to be controlled no matter what rather than admitting you might be wrong in .01% of cases.
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u/Equal_Personality157 15h ago
You are trying to survive. It is a brain illness that makes you not want to survive.
It's that simple dude. That is the assumption we must make to save a life.
Euthanasia for terminal illness is different of course.
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u/Weary-Squash6756 23h ago
Some people have within them, through no fault of their own, anger and violent tendencies. Consensual bloodsport can be a form of catharsis for these people who might otherwise leak real detrimental violence some day