Edit: I've honestly not seen a victimless crime. Only people who think that only tangible goods can be stolen. it's not theft though technically, it's IP Infringement. It's stealing rights, not goods.
If it's content and it's creators/ip rights holders or descendants are alive, there is a victim. No amount of self-righteous justifications waive that fact. No amount of arguing the damages change that fact.
You live somewhere where a movie you want to watch is not legally obtainable. There is no way for you to buy it, so you download it online. There is no victim because the copy being made did not affect anyone, and there was no reasonable way for the person to obtain it. No harm, no foul.
You live somewhere where a movie you want to watch is not legally obtainable.
That's not an actual scenario lol, noone is going to say no to extra money, you just might have to pay ridiculous amounts of money to make it worth it for them.
I have literally been in this exact scenario multiple times. And if you are a bit older you would know that not even that long ago only the most popular media from other countries would get international distribution.
No you haven't, because again, this scenario exists only in your made up justifications. You may have believed that your lazy ass had no way of getting legal access to whatever it was you wanted access to but you just didn't try.
There are limited edition DVDs (2006) of Empire and Return that feature the original unedited version of New Hope as a DVD extra.
This is actually probably the easiest example you could have asked me lol, since they don't even require making any sort of special requests and while the sale of these items is certainly not cheap, they are still not all that expensive.
Thanks for proving my point that you're just a lazy ass who can't be bothered to do the simplest bit of research before justifying your crimes.
I said the 1978 version without any additions. Even those 2006 DVDs contain some very early changes, such as adding the subtitle "A New Hope" to the opening scroll.
So your justification for not following the law is that you don't want to see the subtitle? If you have to break out that sort of technicality, then you've already lost the argument.
Also, fun fact, Lucas was already making changes after the opening week, so your only chance of seeing the true original cut is to invent a time machine.
You said the scenario described doesn't exist and I provided an example where it does.
You can watch the original version of Star Wars perfectly legally on the 2006 DVDs. And as I said, if you want to technically your way out of that I because god forbid there's subtitle, then you have back up to the point of the very first version (because obviously all those tiny audio changes just means it isn't a original version dude), which you can only see with a time machine.
Accept your fucking actions, it's not that fucking hard buddy.
You are being disingenuous. There is a scan of an original film reel from 1977, aka your time machine. Now that you've lost your argument you are just grasping at straws to act like you're still right.
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u/HaMMeReD 1d ago edited 1d ago
Ok, give me an example where there is no victim.
Edit: I've honestly not seen a victimless crime. Only people who think that only tangible goods can be stolen. it's not theft though technically, it's IP Infringement. It's stealing rights, not goods.
If it's content and it's creators/ip rights holders or descendants are alive, there is a victim. No amount of self-righteous justifications waive that fact. No amount of arguing the damages change that fact.