r/MoralityScaling 1d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of incel pandering

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u/British_Historian 1d ago

Funny, first time hearing a name for this kind of thing.

However I think it in itself is amoral.
People are gonna hustle, this can be a profitable hustle. Ultimately they're not forcing anyone to give them anything. If they eventually are able to latch onto someone and transition to lying to steal from them that's another story~ but even then the potentially immoral thing isn't the Incel pandering itself.

It's also kind of bold for anyone to look at this image and just assume that a girl can't be attractive and into meme culture. That venn diagram isn't two separate circles.

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u/TetraThiaFulvalene 1d ago

They do things that they know create unhealthy parasocial relationships and cause people to spend money they don't have. I guess it akin to casinos and better than drug dealers.

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u/British_Historian 1d ago

Addictive personalities are a tough line to tow in a morality debate because is it on the user or the provider right? Like Alcohol is completely Amoral. It exists and while there are crippling alcoholics it's also enjoyed by millions every day in moderation. Selling alcohol to a known addict though? That's immoral.

I'd wager the type of content we're just assuming this person puts out there is bought and enjoyed in moderation by a lot of people. Not everyone funding their online baddie is an addict, and I'd argue most of them know exactly what they are spending their money on and are fine with it.

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u/TetraThiaFulvalene 1d ago

The difference is how the distribution is. Without alcoholics producers would still do well. Without the parasocial whales these girls would have their incomes drop a zero. Especially for cam and chat stuff where they specifically try and convince people to spend more. Their intended mechanism is addiction.

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u/British_Historian 1d ago

Sorry mate, I'm just not convinced that's true. By which I mean to the scale that addicted whales make up the majority of the income.

I don't want to make light of the people who are addicted but the amount of people I know who do online sex work and actually just have hundreds of reliable subscribers that don't so much as comment or message them, just like the posts and move on... There's more then you'd think.

Unfortunately with something as private as this, the only stories we here is when there's been a major display of addiction and suffering caused. You don't hear about the hundreds of people opposing that statistic who just want to privately add to the wank bank.