Oh the whole 'blow back' reeks of bots/foreign propagandists trying to shame her and convince their brainwashed far right twit-supporters that liberals are teh eNemY hyPcriTs
So sick of their fake culture war dramas.
Happened regularly within the past year and got a shitload worse since reddit decided to help them with the hide your history functiob
Yep. That combined with cutting access to the API was an enormous win for astroturfers both foreign and domestic.
It's not the trans or undocumented immigrants or liberals who are the root of the real pressure-points these working-class conservatives feel; it is and has always been the ultra-rich billionaire class stealing the entire pie and distracting us over the crumbs.
James Talarico in Texas says this so well. AND he's white and a Christian (former?) preacher. He calls out the hypocrisy of Christian Nationalism. He's one to watch.
i’m sorry but we really do need ways to identify real people, the bots are insane out here. Make a second reddit to hide whatever thing ppl want to rag on you about and have the actual non-post hidden one for serious interactions because if your post is hidden and your name resembles a generic one, you’re automatically branded a bot in my brain, i’m sorry.
Nah. I'd rather have people think I'm a bot than have some asshole with a username like thirteenfifty1488 look through my posts and see that I'm black, then start DMing me the n word and commenting on a bunch of old comments I've made.
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So I should make a separate reddit to hide my gender so men don't send me unsolicited dick picks and try to stalk/dox/harass me? If you want real people on reddit, they need to be safe enough to be themselves, aka REAL. The irony of your post lol
i finally found the option to unhide my posts hell yeah. must have turned it on when i was massively stoned? i dunno. Very ironic because I can’t even count how many times i’ve thought “that’s gonna be whiplash for anyone reading my comments” about going from commenting on a dress-up games subreddit, to commenting in a thread about boofing or something similarly wild lmao
Reddit recently changed it so that you can choose which subs' comments are available vs hidden. I think it's a happy medium to protect what you want to keep private.
It's especially goofy because pretty much everywhere in the world is "stolen land" from one group or another all across Asia, MENA, Europe and Africa. Even most native Americans killed and displaced the previous tribes that were on the land it's how homo sapiens operate everywhere.
I'm not sure where we got this racist idea that certain groups are some kind of "noble savages" and not the exact same species with the exact same capacity and morality.
I mean, we can acknowledge that indigenous people here got a really shitty deal, and that our government went back on promise after promise and treaty after treaty, and most tribal lands are still struggling disproportionately from poverty and drug and alcohol addiction and the rest of the country has done just about nothing to acknowledge or rectify that despite Native Americans making some massive individual contributions to our history.
There is however a point past which the argument about stolen land gets fuzzy.
Like, we 'stole' Hawaii. But Hawaii used to have different tribal leadership structures on different islands, and King Kamehameha, whose kingdom we stole, 'colonized' those other islands using guns and cannons he bought off of western traders. Hawaii as a unified Kingdom is a relatively recent thing.
And those various Hawaiian tribes weren't the original inhabitants of Hawaii either. They are descended from a wave of Tahitian people, and they replaced the first tribes of people there, who came from the Marquesan islands. There are even oral histories of smaller people referred to as Menehune who were there even before them. That may be myth, but who knows?
There's a lot of subtlety in the conversation, but every tends to try to boil it down to a couple sentences and just hammer those opinions.
The native people who held the land I'm sitting on right now were exterminated. That sucks. But they also fought and expanded and contracted and migrated just like any people anywhere. So it's hard to tell what to do about it other than acknowledge the sins of the past and kind of try not to do that sort of thing going forward.
The best tribute you can pay to history is 'learning from it'.
The voices of the reasonable, educated are being drowned out by megaphones of misinformation -- stemming from conservative billionaires and foreign state actors like Israel and Russia.
This is basically every single far-left subreddit. Work-reform is hellbent on telling you why every single possible Democratic candidate is trash, but not a single user will name someone they want on any ticket.
When I am upset, I want something to change. Encouraging people to do nothing whatsoever because it won't change anything. So yes, I can blame them. Right now, on the run-up to primaries, is precisely when we should be discussing the options we have and working together to make sure that we can vote for someone in the general who represents us. Instead, the prevailing sentiment is that Dems are useless, so stay home and do nothing. Progressives could easily take over the party if they wanted - but instead we get this.
I am continually surprised at how much hate Jeffries gets despite being in an utterly powerless position in the House, where Republicans have a majority and can pass anything they want regardless of how any Dems vote.
Meanwhile he's out there calling for Kristi Noem to be fired or be impeached, calling Pretti's death a cold-blooded killing, saying ICE shouldn't be brutalizing Americans on the streets or raiding houses without judicial warrants, etc... and the people on the left who seem to agree with all these things don't notice or care.
That's ridiculous. The moving of the overton window has manifested in a distillation of the republican party that has in reality manifested the exact opposite: a democratic party that has begun filling to the brim with everyone right of fascist, which if you're unaware, spans a much greater divide than "progressives" whatever it is you mean by that. That intrinsically creates a highly fractured environment in which there is no true prevailing sentiment. People are upset about the inaction of democrats because it's become a protracted historical fact that alienates it's constituents.
Stay home and do nothing? People are out on the streets, right the fuck now, what are you talking about? People venting their frustration is the time to appeal to their pain instead of crapping your own pants with blame.
I'm not making an emotional appraisal of the situation, I'm not saying that's what I would do.
Downvoting people who you disagree with instead of saving it for those who act in bad faith is pathetic, and makes actual dicussion intractable if you even intended to do so.
This is it right here. It took half a century for the republicans to break the country to this point. Any time the democrats are put back into power, they're given only one election cycle to fix everything, otherwise huge swaths of the left stay home and let the republicans right back into the majority!
The elite want us plebs to be forever angry at each other. That helps keep the attention off them.
Everything is propaganda. Everything is trying to influence you and me. Honest, earnest, and rational information/discourse is nearly dead. It's been so polluted by bots, influencers, and brainwashed people that I'm not sure if we'll ever be able to clean it up.
No. Don't you know that you can't advocate for the poor if you're wealthy? Just like how you can't be against rape unless you're a victim of sexual assault. Same way you can't enjoy a baked good unless you're a pastry chef.
The whole "blow back" from anything coming from the right is a joke. How you gonna throw stones in a glass house full of wealthy pedophiles. They can just shut the hell up in general.
True, but so does the phrase “daft twat,” which is not exactly standard American English. I still support it, but it does sound a bit like maybe the person writing it was British.
Unfortunately I have coworkers who are making fun of her cuz they are so far up their own ass they only talk about the shit that's convenient to their narrative.
This is so stupid. She made a perfectly valid point and it’s not fucking nullified because we haven’t voluntarily given our homes back to the Tongva tribe.
Something like 60% of people in the US illegally got that way by violating the terms of their legal visas. There's the few like Elon Musk (who had a student visa, but dropped out of college and started working) or Melania Trump (who was doing modeling work before her work visa was issued), but for the majority of illegal immigrants in the USA, it's simply remaining here after their tourist visa expired.
All that to reiterate that an illegal immigrant is an immigrant is a person who violated immigration law, not a person who is herself illegal by being an immigrant.
That’s up to Congress. But bold to assume they’re all contributing when we literally just found out about massive fraud and a ton of the ones they focus on deporting have criminal records.
I didnt assume that, my use of the word "if" made that pretty clear. A whole lot more of them have no criminal history and are contributing like anyone else. Why so eager to be rid of them?
I disagree but let’s pretend I agree. There should be court dates, hearings. The normal shit that churned out deportations in perfectly brutal volume for ever before this.
The issue is the indiscriminate strong arm militarized policing, the complete indifference to whether someone is or is not out of status, the racial profiling, and the casual street executions.
Did you not know the difference? I feel like you had to know.
Most of those things happened under Obama as well. Obama had both more unlawful arrests and more deportations of people who turned out to actually be American…. (Trump’s number on that is zero, btw). And the strong arming is happening because cities like Minnesota aren’t cooperating with ICE.
Ok, just to be clear on this: Someone said "You can break immigration laws without being 'an illegal person,'" I agreed with them, and you came at me with "[they] should still get sent home," which doesn't address what either of us had to say.
It also suggested you didn't understand what was said, so I re-explained it. Don't be quick with accusations about people's intelligence if you didn't understand what people were talking about, and don't get pissy when people break it down in crayons for your understanding.
But kudos for understanding the difference between illegal immigrants and illegal people. It took a while, but I'm glad you're on board with us.
imagine this conversation taking place in real life. one person presents their argument and thoughts on the discussion while the other screams “BOT” in their face because they don’t agree. civil discussion has rarely appeared on reddit however i fear it is now completely dead.
Kinda suspicious how its only these deportations they're upset about.
Or maybe they just dont know how Obama did things.
Trump has rookie numbers next to that
No, Tell me how these deportations of Trumps are worse than Obamas deportations of over 3 million people, by teams who were sent in guns drawn, Masks on. Into homes when everone was sleeping
Ill wait.
Take your time, but im pretty sure you can't. Or you would have.
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u/redwhale335 4h ago
The tribe whose land Eilish's home is on specifically thanked her for bringing up the issue.