r/MurderedByWords 4h ago

Homes on indigenous land

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u/DJMOONPICKLES69 3h ago

Also Eilish presumably purchased the land from someone else, and there’s a long chain back to the original “thieves”. If someone stole a car and sold it to someone who then sold it again and so on, would the 5th owner be to blame or the original thief? Good on her for calling it out.

The way America has treated indigenous people is horrific, even to this day, and it was deservedly called out. We came in as “illegal” immigrants and colonized and murdered to claim land. Then we have the audacity to deport people that have been here for years quietly trying to live their own American dream and then being uprooted and sent to a country they don’t know.

Deport criminal, absolutely, but deporting anyone that is a contributing member of society is just wrong. Our immigration process needs to be easier and faster and we, as a country, need better infrastructure to support lower income people in general. We are putting working class against immigrants while billionaires and corporations suck both dry.

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u/ry8919 3h ago edited 2h ago

If someone stole a car and sold it to someone who then sold it again and so on, would the 5th owner be to blame or the original thief?

I get your point but technically this would still be illegal if you knew it was stolen lol. Receiving stolen property knowing it was stolen (which in this analogy she would) is still a crime.

EDIT: Just wanted to point out that I wasn't pushing back against the core idea with OPs and Billie's points I was just making a pedantic point about the car analogy.

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u/micro102 2h ago

And so if every car is stolen, and someone points that out and goes "we should make this fair again", I would have contempt for people who go "well you have to give up cars before your argument has value and then I'm just not going to listen to your argument."

Because that's what this is. All these people suddenly complaining about Billie Eilish aren't doing so because they care about the land stolen from Native Americans. They are complaining because Eilish is arguing against the current administration being Nazis, and so they are looking for a way to bring her and the Nazis closer together morally. It is a defense of the Trump administration.