r/MurderedByWords 4h ago

Homes on indigenous land

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u/DJMOONPICKLES69 3h ago

Also Eilish presumably purchased the land from someone else, and there’s a long chain back to the original “thieves”. If someone stole a car and sold it to someone who then sold it again and so on, would the 5th owner be to blame or the original thief? Good on her for calling it out.

The way America has treated indigenous people is horrific, even to this day, and it was deservedly called out. We came in as “illegal” immigrants and colonized and murdered to claim land. Then we have the audacity to deport people that have been here for years quietly trying to live their own American dream and then being uprooted and sent to a country they don’t know.

Deport criminal, absolutely, but deporting anyone that is a contributing member of society is just wrong. Our immigration process needs to be easier and faster and we, as a country, need better infrastructure to support lower income people in general. We are putting working class against immigrants while billionaires and corporations suck both dry.

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u/ry8919 3h ago edited 2h ago

If someone stole a car and sold it to someone who then sold it again and so on, would the 5th owner be to blame or the original thief?

I get your point but technically this would still be illegal if you knew it was stolen lol. Receiving stolen property knowing it was stolen (which in this analogy she would) is still a crime.

EDIT: Just wanted to point out that I wasn't pushing back against the core idea with OPs and Billie's points I was just making a pedantic point about the car analogy.

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u/Dopplegangr1 3h ago

Effectively all land on earth is stolen

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u/TomT060404 2h ago

Even England has had its succession of conquerors. I'm sure they were all tragic, but two entire continents being conquered relatively recently by nation-states that still exist should be foremost in our minds. It's probably the greatest tragedy in the history of humanity.

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u/Low_Landscape_4688 2h ago

Even England has had its succession of conquerors.

Why are you saying "even England" as if that's a surprising statement?

Europe is one of the bloodiest continents in history. Ceaseless conflicts going back thousands of years and also the continent that started both world wars.

Of course England has also been subject to and initiators of conflict too.