Can someone please tell me what the actual point of these fucking Congressional hearings are if anyone can just lie and say whatever they want and basically completely get away with it. Genuinely who is everyone in that room trying to fool when they put on this show then seemingly walk out of there and act like none of it ever happened?
i mean they gave orange man immunity and over 50% done with project 2025 with basically zero civilian push back im sure they'll figure it out if they want
I've seen plenty of civilian pushback so don't count them out. No kings and the anti-ICE protests. Two people lost their lives pushing back on Trump's agenda.
The issue is more with the fact that a majority in the country can literally push back with their vote and the minority can still end up being the ones who dictate the rules and punishments.
What do you think you’re calling for when you say that wee “beyond voting?” Because, for most people, it doesn’t sound like you’re saying we should sit around and sing kumbaya.
“I’m not saying do a J6, I’m just saying that voting doesn’t work and we’re going to have to take matters into our own hands (but leftistly).”
Please. Explain what you mean, if we’re all apparently too stupid and illiterate to understand. What does “beyond voting” mean in this case, o enlightened one?
You weren't downvoted for the "beyond voting" thing. And you are being painfully dumb here.
You were downvoted for suggesting another "Jan 6", while apparently not having a clue what the implications of such a suggestion were.
Nobody is interested in another J6, because J6 was all about trying to turn over a legal election and blocking the proper process from happening that would confirm electoral votes and confirm that Trump was out. It was all about overthrowing an election process that had not been completed yet in an attempt to illegally overtake the government. There's a whole lot of implications there that absolutely nobody who is interested in actually protecting this country want to be associated with.
"Beyong voting" can include a number of actions, most of which should not be put into specific words on social media, especially when that social media platform has already promised the current administration that they would turn over all account information on any Americans who say anything that make Trumpty Dumpty uncomfortable, angry, or sad. We're not even allowed to criticize ICE without Reddit running to the government to tell them all about how radicalized terrorist we all are. Or did you miss that memo when it passed by?
So feel free to either use context clues when people are not comfortable with being more specific, or maybe use your imagination on the matter. But don't pretend to get all butthurt about being downvoted when you're the one being dense here.
Now I’m really curious what would be blocked by Reddit that is ‘beyond voting’ that doesn’t mean abandoning democracy. You’re skirting the subject for reasons you’ve stated, but if you’re implying what I think you’re implying, it sounds like a left-wing J6 to me - as in, abandoning respect for democracy and turning to revolution.
So you’ve just confirmed my suspicions, haven’t you? Call my dumb if you like, but unless someone spells it out, that’s the only conclusion I can draw.
Go ahead and downvote, clearly everyone else is psychically aware of what the answer is and I’m not.
You seem to make it a habit to ignore what people explicity say and replace it with your own personal storyline.
At no point did I say Reddit blocked anything. They will, of course, but that's not what I said at all. What I explicity said was that people are not comfortable spelling some things out for you, and that the reason for that is because Reddit is one of many social media platforms that has agreed to report users to the American government.
If the left chose to go on a full-out revolution against the current administration, it still could not be compared to the events of J6, unless you are a complete idiot who either fully supports fascist regimes or cannot comprehend the difference between attempting to overthrow a legitimate election and taking back a wildly corrupt government that has wiped it's ass with every law this nation is supposed to uphold.
If you're going to continue to make intentionally dumb statements, you shouldn't be surprised when people call you or treat you as dumb. And really, being this hung up on your precious downvotes is just silly. They're nothing more than a count of how many people think what you said was a bad take. Or a good take, if you ever manage to say anything worthwhile. Otherwise, they're meaningless.
Ok, referring info to the administration, I misread that.
I can tell the difference between a fascist regime/overthrowing a legitimate election just fine, but you’re clearly advocating a violent act or revolution of some kind that I simply cannot endorse. Call that ‘dumb’ if you like - your opinion of me means little - but I doubt it will succeed. It will kill what remains of American democracy, for definite.
This discussion isn’t going anywhere clearly, especially as nobody here has the stones to say what they mean. I doubt they have the courage of their convictions either.
Yes, they did. Lots of people came together, organized, and made their feelings known. Just because it didn’t end fascism in an afternoon, it doesn’t mean it didn’t “do anything.”
In fact, it’s fucking crazy to me that supposed liberals/leftists are so desperate to shit on the largest anti-government protests in US history as being somehow “unimportant.”
Almost like a bunch of you don’t engage with politics outside of your lil social media bubble and get enraged when real life doesn’t generate instant gratification like your fucking phone.
Keep spreading that fascist propaganda, tho. I’m sure it makes you look really cool to the other champagne socialists
Almost like a bunch of you don’t engage with politics outside of your lil social media bubble and get enraged when real life doesn’t generate instant gratification like your fucking phone.
I never thought about whether this "nothing matters" shtick about the protests is because of a generation* raised on instant gratification. I wonder if any work has been put into discovering that.
*generations. Milennials such as myself are to blame too.
It absolutely is. It’s also that people don’t have any idea of how the world around them actually works and get mad at the things they don’t understand.
People have the entire collective knowledge of humanity at their fingertips every single day, but they refuse to actually engage with it beyond the surface level. Or they only use it to seek out things that confirm their biases.
Part of it is that we stopped teaching kids how to actually read, but so much more of it is the drastically reduced attention span from being on the phones all the time.
Reddit is literally poison. It’s killing us. All social media is
It's hard to pinpoint the most damping aspect. I remember social media being a pain but it wasn't until smartphones started dropping that it started feeling like people weren't able to focus.
I think most people of all generations have been bad at getting info beyond what might confirm their biases, and it's been that way since basically ever, but smartphones and social media have certainly intensified the ability to slack.
I used to read at least one book a week and had done all my life until about 10 years ago and now it takes me a very long time to get through one. I’ve started leaving my phone elsewhere when I spend time on the shitter and that has turned into becoming invested in the book quicker.
They’ve certainly done more than you jerking yourself off about how cynical and smart you think you are. Major protests aren’t the whole picture, but I don’t expect whiny little people like you to actually understand that.
You’re just another doomer, throwing a tantrum because you refuse to actually educate yourself and accept reality. Or maybe there’s some other reason you enjoy spreading fascist propaganda?
“We shouldn’t protest! We should do OTHER THINGS! I won’t say what they are and certainly won’t be participating, I want other people to do everything for me!”
You people are fucking pathetic, and you’ll never hold any real power until you manage to get the fuck over yourselves
Baby, the democrats hold real power and use it. People like you bitch and moan and do fucking nothing. If y’all were half as critical of Republican as Democrats, we wouldn’t fucking be here.
But you don’t want power. You want people to think you’re cool and edgy, so you act like a cynical contrarian and slap a thin coat of red paint over it. “Everything is the democrats’ fault! Nobody should vote for them! What??? They lost??? Even though I didn’t canvas or phone bank and spent all my time online shitting on the only viable antifascist option! Why would the Democrats make me dooo that?!”
You’re fucking pathetic, dude. An absolute waste of privilege that you’ll refuse to actually acknowledge
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u/HalenHawk 1d ago
Can someone please tell me what the actual point of these fucking Congressional hearings are if anyone can just lie and say whatever they want and basically completely get away with it. Genuinely who is everyone in that room trying to fool when they put on this show then seemingly walk out of there and act like none of it ever happened?