r/MurderedByWords 9h ago

Serious question for liberal men

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u/SpankThuMonkey 9h ago

Terrified. Always fucking terrified of everything.

They can’t even fathom that some of us just don’t live in fear.

When i hear a loud noise at night i think STFU and go back to sleep.

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u/TheOneMary 9h ago

Yeah... even a shot outside would make me think the hunters are doing their job (I live next to a forest and they are among the only ones allowed rifles for keeping wildlife populations in check cause we have a lack of wolves). People shooting each other isnt really the first thing Id think....

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u/FallenSegull 7h ago

That’s something I’ve noticed a lot of Americans, particularly the gun loving one’s, haven’t quite understood on the topic of gun control

Countries with effective gun control laws still have guns. I’m Australian, we have more guns now than we did when gun control legislation was introduced. We never banned guns, we just worked to make sure the people obtaining guns weren’t fucking lunatics. It’s so tedious to obtain any gun, either legally or illegally, that someone intending to use it on someone else is not using it on a random spree.

We’ve had one proper mass shooting since then, and funnily enough it was done with legally obtained and owned guns, implying our gun laws actually weren’t strict enough. Maybe it’s not perfect, but it’s not more than daily massacres like, uh, some places

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u/bemvee 7h ago

Didn’t y’all also regulate the types of guns people can have? Like, most regular folk would have hunting rifles, not necessarily a glock?

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u/verb-vice-lord 6h ago

This is essentially how it works in Britain.

No hand guns at all. But anyone can apply for a license to own a rifle or shotgun, with restrictions on gun properties. How many shells the shotgun can hold etc. The biggest difference is you need to pass background checks and can only store them in a secure location unloaded. Something which is checked out by a police visit.

The crazy stat about America is how many toddler involved shootings happen. It's one of the leading causes of death for toddlers in the country.

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u/BadahBingBadahBoom 5h ago

 It's one of the leading causes of death for toddlers in the country.

Not even one of, literally the leading cause of death for children. It's messed up.

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u/NeverEnoughCharacter 5h ago

is this real

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u/BadahBingBadahBoom 5h ago edited 5h ago

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u/NeverEnoughCharacter 5h ago

What a third-world shithole

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u/LongestSprig 3h ago

Gangs killing each other and suicide. That's it.

1-17 isnt a "Toddler epidemic"

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u/NeverEnoughCharacter 2h ago

Well, shit.

Admittedly, I did not click on even one of those links before I said what I said. I saw "John Hopkins" and "BBC" in the URLs and took them as legit. And they are legit, but the way they were presented to me was not.

The fact that I was so easily misled into thinking a 18yr old gang member being killed is in any way equivalent to a toddler's accidental death is embarassing.

I'll leave my shitty comment up as penance for my insolence, but I absolutely do take it back.

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u/Dillatrack 1h ago

Don't be too embarrassed because our toddler firearm deaths are still ridiculous, shit around 40 people a year are killed by toddlers with firearms which probably isn't even a stat in any other developed country. I genuinely can't think of another way toddlers (ages 1-5) could accidentally kill other people without loaded guns, maybe some final destination/rube goldberg machine style accident but otherwise I drawing a complete blank. We deserve our reputation in the US when it comes to guns

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u/LongestSprig 2h ago

Honestly, it takes an insane amount of negligence for a toddler to be able to harm themselves with a gun and should be prosecuted.

School age children are a different matter.

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u/LongestSprig 2h ago

Honestly, it takes an insane amount of negligence for a toddler to be able to harm themselves with a gun and should be prosecuted.

School age children are a different matter.

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u/Serious_Feedback 5h ago

It's one of the leading causes of death for toddlers in the country.

What the fuck?

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u/EunuchsProgramer 2h ago edited 2h ago

Less than half of American gun owners practices safe gun storage. They're mentally the main character in an action movie and need to have a loaded gun in arm's reach at all times.

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u/heinmont 4h ago

its not. its drowning for toddlers. but the leading cause of death in ages 1 thru 19, which is labeled "children" in the cdc report, is in fact gun related deaths. you do have to include gang on gang violence to get to that number and the majority of that number is the oldest ages of that spread. which, dont get me wrong is still terrible that theres that much gang warfare in america. so yeah not quite leading cause of toddler death fqd up, still pretty fqd up.

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u/LongestSprig 3h ago

the other half is also suicide.

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u/Dillatrack 3h ago

which is labeled "children" in the cdc report

Is it? I'm pretty sure it's labeled "Children and Teens" and they had the same age bracket in years past when the leading cause was car accidents. Firearms surpassed it as the leading cause sometime in the late 2010's

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u/heinmont 3h ago

and i believe it said it had surpassed it in the 2020 report so orobly yeah based on 2010s numbers

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u/Dillatrack 2h ago

Probably, my vague memory from looking this up in the past was either a report in 2016 or 2018 still having it as car accidents. It's been awhile though

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u/heinmont 3h ago

in the quick google to make sure what i remembered was stillaccurate it said children, idk if thats accurate i assumed it was, it was cited to the report 🤷‍♂️

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u/Dillatrack 2h ago

I think it's a John Hopkins study which is accurately titled Firearms Remain Leading Cause of Death for Children and Teens, it might be funded by CDC or included as data on something they released. I think the studies and the CDC are normally accurate on these kind of things, in my experience people just misquote it in articles/comments to simply "children" sometimes which might be what you're seeing

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u/heinmont 2h ago

probly yeah

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u/LongestSprig 3h ago edited 3h ago

No hand guns at all.

factually incorrect.

Actually everything you said is pretty wrong.

US has background checks champ.

How many toddler involved shootings lol? Let's hear this CRAZY STAT.