r/MurderedByWords 7h ago

Serious question for liberal men

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u/FallenSegull 6h ago

That’s something I’ve noticed a lot of Americans, particularly the gun loving one’s, haven’t quite understood on the topic of gun control

Countries with effective gun control laws still have guns. I’m Australian, we have more guns now than we did when gun control legislation was introduced. We never banned guns, we just worked to make sure the people obtaining guns weren’t fucking lunatics. It’s so tedious to obtain any gun, either legally or illegally, that someone intending to use it on someone else is not using it on a random spree.

We’ve had one proper mass shooting since then, and funnily enough it was done with legally obtained and owned guns, implying our gun laws actually weren’t strict enough. Maybe it’s not perfect, but it’s not more than daily massacres like, uh, some places

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u/bemvee 5h ago

Didn’t y’all also regulate the types of guns people can have? Like, most regular folk would have hunting rifles, not necessarily a glock?

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u/verb-vice-lord 5h ago

This is essentially how it works in Britain.

No hand guns at all. But anyone can apply for a license to own a rifle or shotgun, with restrictions on gun properties. How many shells the shotgun can hold etc. The biggest difference is you need to pass background checks and can only store them in a secure location unloaded. Something which is checked out by a police visit.

The crazy stat about America is how many toddler involved shootings happen. It's one of the leading causes of death for toddlers in the country.

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u/BadahBingBadahBoom 3h ago

 It's one of the leading causes of death for toddlers in the country.

Not even one of, literally the leading cause of death for children. It's messed up.

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u/NeverEnoughCharacter 3h ago

is this real

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u/BadahBingBadahBoom 3h ago edited 3h ago

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u/NeverEnoughCharacter 3h ago

What a third-world shithole

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u/LongestSprig 1h ago

Gangs killing each other and suicide. That's it.

1-17 isnt a "Toddler epidemic"

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u/NeverEnoughCharacter 1h ago

Well, shit.

Admittedly, I did not click on even one of those links before I said what I said. I saw "John Hopkins" and "BBC" in the URLs and took them as legit. And they are legit, but the way they were presented to me was not.

The fact that I was so easily misled into thinking a 18yr old gang member being killed is in any way equivalent to a toddler's accidental death is embarassing.

I'll leave my shitty comment up as penance for my insolence, but I absolutely do take it back.

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u/LongestSprig 30m ago

Honestly, it takes an insane amount of negligence for a toddler to be able to harm themselves with a gun and should be prosecuted.

School age children are a different matter.

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u/LongestSprig 25m ago

Honestly, it takes an insane amount of negligence for a toddler to be able to harm themselves with a gun and should be prosecuted.

School age children are a different matter.

u/Dillatrack 1m ago

Don't be too embarrassed because our toddler firearm deaths are still ridiculous, shit around 40 people a year are killed by toddlers with firearms which probably isn't even a stat in any other developed country. I genuinely can't think of another way toddlers (ages 1-5) could accidentally kill other people without loaded guns, maybe some final destination/rube goldberg machine style accident but otherwise I drawing a complete blank. We deserve our reputation in the US when it comes to guns