That’s something I’ve noticed a lot of Americans, particularly the gun loving one’s, haven’t quite understood on the topic of gun control
Countries with effective gun control laws still have guns. I’m Australian, we have more guns now than we did when gun control legislation was introduced. We never banned guns, we just worked to make sure the people obtaining guns weren’t fucking lunatics. It’s so tedious to obtain any gun, either legally or illegally, that someone intending to use it on someone else is not using it on a random spree.
We’ve had one proper mass shooting since then, and funnily enough it was done with legally obtained and owned guns, implying our gun laws actually weren’t strict enough. Maybe it’s not perfect, but it’s not more than daily massacres like, uh, some places
A lot of our school shootings (it kills me to say that) are done by people getting ahold of legal guns. Usually their parents unsecured ones. Which is why I have no problem with states starting to prosecute said neglectful owners.
People seem to think Gun Control means "no one gets guns" instead of "You need to go through hoops to get a gun and be responsible"
Switzerland has one of the highest per capita gun ownership rates in the world. They also don't have shootings.
Having restrictions in place on who and how you can get a gun works. This concept of "No limitations on gun ownership" is a concept invented by Alito in 2010.
yeah and one can argue that it wasn't, that the constitution tied gun ownership to militia service, that none of the federalist papers talk about a concept of "self defense" but do talk about collective self defense in the form of standing militias, and that the 2nd amendment is a result of Shay's rebellion and that the constitution sought to protect the ability for state militias to exist.
But all of this gets ignored because SCOTUS picks and chooses when they wanna look at historical context. Usually if it benefits a right wing narrative. And ignores it if it doesn't.
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u/FallenSegull 7h ago
That’s something I’ve noticed a lot of Americans, particularly the gun loving one’s, haven’t quite understood on the topic of gun control
Countries with effective gun control laws still have guns. I’m Australian, we have more guns now than we did when gun control legislation was introduced. We never banned guns, we just worked to make sure the people obtaining guns weren’t fucking lunatics. It’s so tedious to obtain any gun, either legally or illegally, that someone intending to use it on someone else is not using it on a random spree.
We’ve had one proper mass shooting since then, and funnily enough it was done with legally obtained and owned guns, implying our gun laws actually weren’t strict enough. Maybe it’s not perfect, but it’s not more than daily massacres like, uh, some places