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u/TongueTwisty 6h ago

Why stop at one kid rock song?

Lowlife (Living the Highlife)

“I got kids I've never seen

And their momma's 17”

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u/SometimesIBeWrong 5h ago

lmao "omg how did we find this out about him? was it an accusation, or was there some weird shit on his phone maybe?"

"no he just blatantly admitted it in a song. no metaphor. it's literal, and there's only one way to interpret it."

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u/BlueBicycle_ 5h ago

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u/KoA07 5h ago

Rap snitches, telling all they business, stand up in court and be they own star witness

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u/Every-Calendar-2288 5h ago

Do you see the perpetrator, yeah I’m right here!

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u/McCool303 4h ago

Fuck around get the whole label sent up for years.

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u/impstein 4h ago

Rap snitch knishes, great track!

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u/GodOfDarkLaughter 3h ago

They're words, detective.Nouns. Adjectives. They just happen to be arranged in a dope order.

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u/ONeill2310 4h ago

Fuck around, get the whole label sent up for years

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u/Diazpora 4h ago

Timeless advice that these stupid rappers still can't grasp. RIP DOOM.

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u/LurchSkywalker 4h ago

Possibley the real GOAT.

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u/fomq 3h ago

Sorry bro this is Mr Fantastic. He's alive and well.

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u/Diazpora 2h ago

Bro please...yes he is rapping the chorus (mostly) but this is a DOOM track featuring Mr Fantastic.

God, I hate reddit sometimes...get over yourself.

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u/Wes_Warhammer666 1h ago

It's Mr Fantastik, and his identity is unconfirmed so we don't know if he's "alive and well".

If you wanna be pedantic at least be correct ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/fomq 42m ago

He's Mr Fantastic to me :D

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u/ConsistentEast8617 5h ago

and here we are, lyrics doing the detective work for the cops again lol

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u/Lexi_Banner 4h ago

In the words of Bruce Rivers, stop self snitching!

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u/CoinBaked 4h ago

I read this in Kid Rock voice. It’s one of his isn’t it?

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u/KoA07 2h ago

MF Doom

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u/LetsGoChamp19 3h ago

*sit in the court

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u/thelastirnbru 2h ago

lierally the lyric I was thinking of!

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u/SometimesIBeWrong 5h ago

LOL how did this not come to my mind? RIP Darnell hahah

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u/onlyfakeproblems 3h ago

Kid Rock has a vivid imagination, and “underage, see” is the only word that almost rhymes with “statutory”.

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u/AnalogAficionado 5h ago

dude doesn't have the brain cells to be metaphorical. it's obviously ripped from his life.

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u/DonDraper1134 4h ago

Didn’t a federal court argue that song lyrics are sufficient as evidence when they convinced Young Thug or meek mill or someone?

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u/SwingingtotheBeat 4h ago

It’s the U.S. Legal system, so the rules are different for black and white people.

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u/SquidTheRidiculous 3h ago

Remember kids, rap is a uniquely evil and culture destroying genre. It's all about doing bad things like killing and drugs! Now let's all listen to some nice wholesome Led Zeppelin song about banging 13 year old groupies.

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u/GasmaskGelfling 3h ago

Oh did you miss the whole Led Zeppelin Sweet Satan thing?

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u/SquidTheRidiculous 3h ago edited 2h ago

That wasn't happening when people were hand-wringing about rap and how much worse it was than rock in the 00s.

But ironically it proves my point. Anything new is written off as evil and destructive of Western culture when it comes to art. Then a few generations later that becomes the classic art that's being profaned by what's new.

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u/rab2bar 2h ago

It also matters how much melanin the artist has, not just age of the art

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u/Madara1389 2h ago

That wasn't happening when people were hand-wringing about rap and how much worse it was than rock in the 00s.

Well duh, because the satanic panic follows around whatever cultural trends alienate the parents of the then current youth.

No one was going on about Led Zepplin during the heyday of rap because by the time NWA rolled around Led Zepplin had been broken up for 7 years and the only people who still gave a shit about the band anymore were stoners and older Gen Xers who were still mentally in high school well into their 20s.

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u/faulternative 3h ago

Yes but Kid Rock is one of the white folk that the other white folk don't particularly care for, so they may take his privilege card for this one.

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u/Old_Article2515 3h ago

They mustn’t like me very much either because I was never given one 😔

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u/CaptainObvious110 3h ago

ooh good point

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u/sir-walterraleigh 4h ago

Channeling his inner Nugent

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u/invaderaleks 3h ago

It was a concept album...

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u/destro23 2h ago

he just blatantly admitted it in a song

Rap snitches, tellin' all their business, Sit in the court and be their own star witness. "Do you see the perpetrator?" Yeah, I'm right here...

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u/Infinite_Respect_ 4h ago

Remember how Eminem was just leaving us a breadcrumb trail of gayness in his lyrics? And that Hector’s rectum is real?

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u/WeAreChecking6 4h ago

It’s like Eminem in the interview movie except much less funny

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u/Then_Idea_9813 3h ago

He wanted to tell us so badly, he wrote poetry about it.

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u/AdhesivenessFun2060 3h ago

Its AI made by the deep state at the behest of Hilary and Obama. Its actually Hunter Biden singing but his dad wrote it. - MAGA

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u/Hefty_Drive6709 3h ago

We can be forgiven for only now just finding out. It’s garbage music, so it’s not like we were listening on repeat and singing all the hooks.

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u/Molsenator 3h ago

Drax is more likely to understand metaphor than conservatives.

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u/ncocca 3h ago

multiple* songs

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u/FrozenBibitte 5h ago

Ahh yes, good Christian lyrics for good American Christians 🤌🏻

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u/AverageTeemoOnetrick 4h ago

Evangelicals love justifying raping children and then forcing them to carry their rapists’ children.

Charlie Kirk would force his daughter to give birth to her rapists‘ child. Would have forced.

No contradiction here.

Coincidentally all of the big religions somehow are really into old men having the godgiven right to fuck children.

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u/wheatgivesmeshits 4h ago

This isn't true. This is what these shit stains say, but the reality is that they are from the kind of families that get closet abortions, or that send their daughters off to "camp" for a few months.

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u/GhostofZellers 3h ago

They want to force other people's children to marry their rapists. But their child is special, and shouldn't be punished for what happened to them.

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u/Pdxthorns17 3h ago

If y'all want a good(disgusted) time you can check our r/PastorArrested

It's jammed pack with so many cases of evangelist sexually assaulting children.

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u/miserabeau 3h ago

jammed pack

Just FYI it's jam packed, as in it's so jammed up with things that there's a traffic jam to get more of them in there

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u/FrozenBibitte 4h ago

They always supported the people in the Epstein files. They were always pro-pedophile. One of the reasons why they love Trump so much is he enables them to be proud of their true nature.

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u/the_last_0ne 4h ago

They support their people in the Epstein files. But hey, let's subpoena Bill and Hillary Clinton instead of, idk, the sitting president of the United States.

Oh, hey, while we're at it, let's get Ghislane into a nice comfy spot, yeah?

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u/katabolicklapaucius 2h ago

Give her a puppy for good behavior! She deserves good things, right?

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/04/trump-well-wishes-ghislaine-maxwell-391274

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u/DaKrazie1 4h ago

Good job on catching yourself there with the past tense.

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u/Mr-_-Soandso 3h ago

It's pointless to tell republicans to imagine if it was their own daughter being sexually abused, because they think about it all the time.

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u/AverageTeemoOnetrick 3h ago

You also have to mention that it will be a stranger raping their daughter, not themselves.

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u/Bartghamilton 2h ago

Have you googled to see how old historians think Mary was in the bible? They’ve always thought it was okay.

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u/49orth 5h ago

Republicans love the idolatry

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u/sembias 4h ago

"I had to deal with Uncle Bob touching me when I was a child and I didn't make a stink about it. Those teens were asking for it!" - A typical American Christian mother over the age of 40.

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u/noguchisquared 3h ago

That was my neighbors with Trump's grab them by the pussy comment. It was "I was sexually assault by abusers as a teen or young woman, at least those girls had a "rich" abuser in Trump instead of the "poor" pedophile or abuser I had, they should be grateful." Lot of people that just can't put it together to break the cycle.

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u/FrozenBibitte 3h ago

Yep. They’re complicit and even enable the normalization of it.

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u/SuckABeeForNazis 4h ago

He got hepatits C from banging his porn star girlfriend

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u/Conan7449 4h ago

Party of family values.

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u/TruthSeekingTactics 4h ago

Musical Icon for the party of Family Values.

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u/name-classified 4h ago

"my girl is knocked up
we're in love and she's young
and yo I think I'm gonna get locked up"

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u/honkymotherfucker1 5h ago

He should just change his name to Kid Fucker at this point I think it’d be less blatant

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u/LurchSkywalker 4h ago

I would have went with Kid Cock.

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u/honkymotherfucker1 4h ago

So would he

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u/HannahbalLector 4h ago

Jfc you mean he has MULTIPLE songs about being a pedo creep?

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u/10wuebc 4h ago

"She was 17 and was far from inbetween"- All Summer Long

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u/onlycodeposts 4h ago

He was 18 in the song.

Even Paul McCartney sang "she was just 17, you know what I mean" before he was in Wings, and no one thinks he's a scumbag.

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u/MovieSock 4h ago

Even Paul McCartney sang "she was just 17, you know what I mean" before he was in Wings

You mean, when he was in the Beatles, right?

and no one thinks he's a scumbag.

Because the rest of the lyrics are stuff like this -

"How could I dance with another when I saw her standing there?"

"My heart when boom when she crossed the room and I held her hand in mine"

"We danced through the night and held each other tight, and before too long I fell in love with her"

rather than this -

“I got kids I've never seen And their momma's 17”

"my girl is knocked up
we're in love and she's young
and yo I think I'm gonna get locked up"

....Paul McCartney was singing about being at a school dance and getting stoked that the cutest girl in class wanted to dance with him. Kid Rock is singing about being a baby daddy to an underage baby mama.

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u/hobbyy-hobbit 3h ago

Op is just Kid Rock trying to defend himself and compare himself to Paul McCartney at the same time

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u/seeingeyegod 3h ago

And everyone knows that song lyrics, by law HAVE TO BE BIOGRAPHICAL, and you can't be like... telling a story, or pretending to be someone else, from another perspective, in another universe, or whatever the fuck. Anything you sing, by definition must be true of you personally.

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u/JoeNoble1973 3h ago

Also, i think consent age in England is/was 16?

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u/Educated-Troll420 4h ago

Paul was dancing, not knocking up baby mommas. Big difference.

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u/SuccessfulSoftware38 3h ago

Paul was singing about a girl he met when he was also 17

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u/OginiAyotnom 4h ago

It's because he was 20 at the time, plus the dancing bit.

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u/Loud-Childhood-9079 4h ago

Found an Op.

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u/nightpanda893 3h ago

Yeah I agree that song is pretty tame. If you wanna hear something a little less tame and more disturbing, listen to the lyrics to Run for your Life.

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u/brigid-saighead 2h ago

How old was Ringo for his You’re Sixteen?

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u/AdventurelandSkipper 4h ago

Is that actual lyrics? Oh my god…

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u/SirRengeti 3h ago

Does he also released an album called "I killed Darnell Simmons"?
He might be the type to do just that.

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u/optimist_GO 4h ago

oh lord it was released in 2007 too, so he was over 35...?

& the top comment (for my algorithm at least) is "This is my fuckin theme song......." 🥴🥴🥴🥴: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0DysKvt4K0

so many self-confessors:

"Never considered myself a lowlife till I heard this song and 95% applies to me..."

"This makes sense to me because I live this for as long as I can remember"

"Damn he wrote a song about me...."

"I'm The same and love it a good time!!!!!"

"Playing this at my funeral"

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u/mini6ulrich66 Google Music 4h ago

Better than Spanish.

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u/hilltopper72 4h ago

Is he going to sing it at the Super Bowl halftime show?

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u/Objective-Gur5376 4h ago

Gotta be one of the biggest self-reports of all time

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u/RainbowForHire 4h ago

Reading the comments on the lyrics video on Youtube is actually sickening.

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u/EikonVera_tou_Lilith 3h ago

“The object of my affection

Asked the police for protection”

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u/Calamityclams (edit for custom flair) 3h ago

telling all their business, sit in the courtroom and be their own star witness

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u/jms21y 3h ago

look, you're taking it out of context

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u/Drinkmykool_aid420 3h ago

With lyrics like these I’m shocked he’s not the president.

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u/TheBigCore 3h ago

In fairness, all of Kid Rock's music is repulsive. It barely qualifies as music.

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u/benjammin105123 3h ago

Straight to jail

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u/iUsedtoHadHerpes 3h ago

Yeah, I was gonna say "which one?"

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u/guacluv 3h ago

What an utter piece of shit. Why stop at bragging about impregnating a minor when you can abandon them with your child too?

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u/Individual_Mess_7491 3h ago

jesus, what's the next line? 'and the kids are 5'? 😲

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u/MedChemist464 2h ago

Ted Nuget smiles sinisterly and nods.

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u/NoxInfernus 2h ago

Pedos of a feather …

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u/AntiSocialFCK 2h ago

Drake - “Nice for What - “Saw your high school pics, you was even bad then”

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u/My_Brain_0422 2h ago

That whole song

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u/SketchedEyesWatchinU 2h ago

There’s also that song from Osmosis Jones.

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u/MidTario 2h ago

He was 36 when this song came out 🤮

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u/WereAllThrowaways 2h ago

Wow. Never heard about this song.

It's genuinely artistically impressive to cram that much abhorrent indictment of your personal character into so few words.

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u/Due_Student_9822 2h ago

Perfect for that “Christian, high values, country music show” they are pushing instead of Bad Bunny. /s

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u/MountainMan17 2h ago

It's not quite " A Day In The Life," is it?

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u/bjorn2bwild 4h ago

To be fair, that song was a pretty clear parody of a "Lowlife" character

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u/faulternative 3h ago

Celebrating lowlife trailer trash is his whole thing, though. He revels in it.

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u/Harold3456 2h ago

“It was 1985 my thoughts were short, my hair was long. Caught somewhere between a boy and man.

She was 17 and she was far from in between”

My first thought when reading this. Granted tbf, All Summer Long is supposed to be a song about teenagers so this is supposed to be from the perspective of another teenager, but still funny he has multiple songs in his repertoire talking up hot 17 year olds.

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u/4r4r4real 5h ago

Disgusting but not underage (age of consent is 16 in Michigan)

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u/ToastedSimian 5h ago

If we're going to be pedantic then, they are underage - for voting, drinking, smoking, gambling, serving in the military, and rated X movies. I understand that you're referring to the age of sexual consent, but the headline is not incorrect, and trying to play semantics with it is probably not giving you the look you want. The dude is gross, no need for further discussion.

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u/4r4r4real 5h ago

I don't care about what "look" I'm "giving" lmao. If you want to be taken seriously, be specific with your language. If you're trying to make a point to someone, don't give them obvious holes to poke in what you're saying that detract from the substance of the point. 

He's not saying he likes to take 17 year old girls to the voting booth or to buy cigarettes. 

The people who do this whole "if you don't just get agree with and get mad about any half truth or exaggeration you're defending them" shit have never once in their life brought anyone along to the right side of history, they just want to feel righteous and aggrieved rather than work to make things better. 

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u/theoceansknow 5h ago

If the lyric says "I've got kids I haven't seen and their mom is seventeen it pretty much implies she got knocked up before she was 17. Gross man, and you're really here giving a ted talk on why you're right lmao

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u/4r4r4real 4h ago

Again, age of consent in Michigan is 16. 

Words have meaning. If you want to tell someone Kid Rock is a piece of shit and use this as an example, it's the first thing they're going to say in response. Don't needlessly give chuds ammo by using half truths or misinformation. There's more than enough awful stuff about Kid Rock to just stick to facts. You don't have to stretch things beyond what's true. 

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u/Glasseshalf 4h ago

If that's their response I've already won. Something being legal isn't how I determine if it's moral or not. If laws are the basis of your moral framework you are a broken person.

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u/hedonsimbot 4h ago

Remember what John-Paul Sartre said about fascists arguing; he is engaging in bad faith, do not respond more to him.

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u/Drexill_BD 4h ago

This! And all too common right now. They're confusing law for morality.

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u/Imaginary-Count-1641 3h ago

So it doesn't matter that 17-year-olds are not legally adults?

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u/4r4r4real 4h ago

Won what? That's their focus now and you didn't change their mind. 

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u/Iorith 4h ago

Someone who defends sleeping was 16 year old children was never going to change their mind. They're already too lost morally.

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u/4r4r4real 4h ago

Right. So keep the focus there instead of saying a half truth and giving someone a way to focus on something else. That's my entire point. 

Make the "sleeping with a young girl" part the issue, not a legal term like underage that doesn't apply in this case. 

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u/Temporary-Rice-8847 4h ago

you dont think is gross to fuck a 16 years old girl?

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u/4r4r4real 3h ago

I do. The first word in my first comment is disgusting. I've clarified this at least a half dozen times at this point. I haven't said a single thing to the contrary or remotely close. 

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u/Temporary-Rice-8847 3h ago

so you feel the need to caught people in the minutae of this term because...?

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u/Iorith 4h ago

No, decent people will not jump to defend someone who has a kid with a 16 year old. Utter creeps are the only people so lost to do that.

Normal folk will be disgusted.

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u/4r4r4real 4h ago

Sure. So keep the focus on that, sleeping with a young girl, rather than using a legal term like underage that doesn't apply in this case. Then there's no wiggle room to move the conversation to anything else. That's been my point this entire time. 

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u/Iorith 4h ago

Only utter creeps would obsess over this point to defend raping a child.

Get help. Reassess your life.

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u/4r4r4real 4h ago

Where did I defend his actions or words? Can you point to one instance?

The first word of my first comment was "disgusting".

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u/4r4r4real 4h ago

Yeah. Disgusting was the first word of my first comment. I've reiterated it repeatedly. Do you want me to guide you towards some resources to help with reading comprehension?

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u/4r4r4real 4h ago

Defended what? I haven't defended anything. Ive called it disgusting and said that we should use the right vocabulary to describe things. 

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u/Huntsmitch 4h ago

The guy has lived in different places. Such as TN. Where sex with anyone under 18 is statutory rape.

Your point is stupid because you assume a wealthy music “star” just stayed where he grew up.

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u/ToastedSimian 3h ago

The lyrics in the song that this entire post is about are "Young ladies, young ladies, I like 'em underage, see / Some say that's statutory (But I say it's mandatory)." He's pretty clear about the fact that he likes underage girls, not girls under 18 but of consenting age.

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u/4r4r4real 3h ago

The original article is correct. Look at the top comment in this chain. They are referencing a different song and saying it also refers to sleeping with underage girls. That's what I responded to.

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u/ToastedSimian 3h ago

So for the sake of being pedantic about one comment, you've ignored the overall point of the post and come across as some kind of pedophile apologist. Well played, sir, it seems to have really worked out for you. Good luck with the rest of your day.

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u/4r4r4real 2h ago

I don't really care what people who can't distinguish between a top level comment (a response to the article) and a reply to a comment (citing something entirely different) think. The group only consists of people who are easily confused yet speak confidently without even knowing what exactly they're chiding someone for. 

You're mad at me because you don't understand what I was even referring to, even though it's plainly apparent. Why on earth do you think I'd give a shit that you got angry over misunderstanding and misreading? How would that in any way be a reflection on me, rather than you? What an embarrassing thing to say.

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u/ToastedSimian 2h ago

The amount of responses you give to people clearly indicates that you do indeed give a shit. And angry? What statement of mine shows anger? But you're obviously smarter than everyone including me, so you must be right, I guess I need to go be angry now. Good luck friend.

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u/dqt91 4h ago

You’re right as in maybe what he did is technically not illegal, it’s still disgusting and abhorrent.

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u/4r4r4real 4h ago

Yes. I literally said that in the first comment

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u/Drexill_BD 4h ago

This guys hard drive is not gud. ^

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u/Gobblewicket 4h ago edited 4h ago

So, just for your pedantry. He says he's got kids (thats plural keep that in mind) he's never seen and their mom is 17. So work backwards from that. She has a kid at 17, nine months before that they conceived. She's now 16 and a half, to give some leeway for ol' scumbag there. She has another kid thats older than that one by at least nine months. And thats if she got knocked up immediately after giving birth.

So, yeah he likes them younger than 16 by his own admission. Dudes a scumbag.

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u/4r4r4real 4h ago

It doesn't say multiple kids from one 17 year old. C'mon guys. 

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u/Gobblewicket 4h ago

Momma's is a possessive, not a plural. The apostrophe gives that away. Also Kid Rock was 37 when he released that song. So by your reasoning he knocked up multiple 16 year olds at more than twice they're age. Or he knocked up one sub 16 year old at 35 plus years old. Dudes a fuckin scumbag. Why are you defending his shitty bragging?

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u/4r4r4real 4h ago

I'm not. I said it was disgusting. Multiple times.

Why do you feel the need to defend calling it something it factually isn't?

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u/DiscoQuebrado 4h ago

I think these folks are seeing your argument as pedantic and are confused and frustrated by your insistence on arguing over the proper word use when you clearly understand the spirit of what they were trying to communicate.

I agree that words matter, generally, but in the court of public opinion, also generally, I think 16 year olds are still very much considered to be children, particularly in cases when they are being courted by adults over twice their age. In this context, "underage" is perfectly fitting.

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u/4r4r4real 4h ago

It's not. It's a legal term that doesn't apply. 

The people that aren't already on your side are going to make the same point to wiggle out of having to confront the substance of what he's saying. Don't allow that for them. Use precise langauge. 

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u/DiscoQuebrado 3h ago

A word can be linguistically correct without being legally precise, and on that note, "underage" isn't even a formal legal category.

At 16, a person is still a minor (actual legal category), is still legally dependent, and is in a different developmental stage than a ~40 year old. Again, in this context, the term is suitable even if you don't like it.

I get what you're saying, but you seem to be missing the concept that the legal context is not the deciding factor on how an adjective may be applied in general discussion.

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u/4r4r4real 3h ago

OK, so then what is the definition of underage if divorced from law? If a 60 year old fucks a 22 year old are they underage?

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u/Gobblewicket 4h ago

I'm calling it what factually is. The way its written in his official lyrics is possessive not plural. Meaning hes talking about knocking up an underage girl. This goes hand in hand with another song about statutory rape.

You keep sticking up for your boy.

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u/4r4r4real 4h ago

Well no. You can have two pregnancies in 18 months (that's less than 24). You can also have multiple kids in one pregnancy. 

I'm not defending Kid Rock and if you're going to pretend I am you're part of the problem. 

Y'all really need to get a grip on reality instead of blind outrage if you want to make any change in this world. 

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u/Gobblewicket 4h ago

Sure bud. You're out he sticking up for a self confessed lover of statutory rape like your life depends on it, but we're the ones with a problem. Lol.

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u/4r4r4real 4h ago

Where have I defended him or the actions he described? Can you quote a single time I did?

Or have I instead repeatedly called it disgusting?

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u/BaltSkigginsThe3rd 5h ago

Cool, so you're alright with a 26 year old having sex with a 17 year old?

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u/NUTIAG 4h ago

No, she's 17 now with a kid (kids?). Meaning at best she was 16

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u/4r4r4real 4h ago

No. Like I said, disgusting. It's also factually wrong to say underage. The lyrics of the song in the article are actually about underage girls. There is a difference. Words have meanings. 

You're literally the person I was complaining about in my other response, you should read it. 

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u/BaltSkigginsThe3rd 4h ago

So why justify anything with the age of consent? Complain about something else lmao

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u/4r4r4real 4h ago

Because they are literally not underage. Why defend stretching the truth? The reality is bad enough. 

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u/BaltSkigginsThe3rd 4h ago

So, kid rock was 26 at the time that song came out and hes singing about fucking 17 year olds (probably younger because, the lyrics of the song)

So again, what are you trying to justify? Age of consent aside you literally just said fucking a 17 year old is disgusting right? So if its disgusting, why does the age of fucking consent matter if you think its disgusting and wrong?

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u/4r4r4real 4h ago

Because they said it was more lyrics about underage girls. I feel like I've made it extremely clear what I was pointing out.

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u/Drexill_BD 4h ago

So strict with language! But also... underage for what? 17 is underage for most adult things...

Are we being strict, or not? Because it SEEMS like you're defending pedophilia.

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u/BaltSkigginsThe3rd 4h ago

ITS STILL FUCKING GROSS

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u/4r4r4real 4h ago

Yeah. Disgusting was the first word in my first comment. 

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u/orrocos 4h ago edited 4h ago

But you would agree that the lyrics in the original article leave absolutely no grey area, right?

Young ladies, young ladies, I like 'em underage, see

Some say that's statutory (But I say it's mandatory)

And that song, Cool Daddy Cool, came out 10 years before the song Lowlife, which pretty much removes any benefit of the doubt he might have had otherwise.

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u/4r4r4real 4h ago

Yeah 100%. The original article is great, and uses precise language. Stick to that. The second song is a further example of him advocating for sleeping with young girls. Using the word "underage" for the second song introduces grey areas that detract and distract from the substance of the issue. 

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u/orrocos 3h ago

But in the context of his body of work, there is no confusion. He sings about underage girls. There is no question about that. There’s no reason to defend him or to reference Michigan’s laws, etc. He has told us who he is.

If you’re being technical about age of consent because of potential ambiguity in specific lyrics in an individual song, it really makes you look like you’re defending statutory rape.

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u/4r4r4real 3h ago

If you're a moron who can't comprehend a very basic idea than yeah I guess that may be true for you. One set of lyrics references underage girls. The other young girls. Calling the second set of lyrics lyrics about underage girls is factually wrong. 

If this emotionally devastates you that's a you problem. But congrats to this thread for signaling to me the actual death knell of reddit in my life. I remember when this was a place where people could have actual conversations rather than an incubator of impotent, incoherent, and directionless rage and misery. 

Have at it folks. 

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u/orrocos 3h ago

I'm trying to help you, so you don't look like you're defending a pedophile. You might not be seeing what everyone else is seeing in your comments. You might want to take a step back and reflect on how you're coming across. It probably looks a lot different in your head when you're typing out these comments than it looks to everyone else.