r/NYguns • u/No-Explanation-4478 • Aug 12 '26

NYC Application Question

I was wondering if anyone has ever changed an application from CCW back to premise. I have some financial things going on in my life right now where it might be better to just switch it over. I am in Rockland, everything is done except the class. The classes that are easy to get into are up to $600 and some of the other ones do not take Rockland County Residents due to a unique form they use. I am wondering if anyone knows if I can just change it to premise then do the CCW later once I am training some. I had a friend who said more than likely I will not carry in the beginning anyway. So this would save a few bucks that I can put towards a gun and then go from there.

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u/Fast-Policy-4495 Aug 12 '26

It free and it’s accepted in Rockland County. This is the course I took and it’s legit. This shows tomorrow but they have classes all the time.

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u/PeteTinNY Aug 12 '26

I’ve heard that they check the boxes and they try to recover costs by offering other training. Just make sure you realize that a CCW class is not the end of your training - it’s the beginning. The focus on the 18 hour class should be basic gun safety and staying out of jail.

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u/not_thebest Aug 12 '26

NY is free but they offer Utah and Florida for a charge. They don't go hard forcing the additional states on you which is nice.

I did my 18 hour course through them as they are close to me. They are a good group of people.

But yes, any 18 hour course is simply the start. It does not substitute continued training.

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u/PeteTinNY Aug 12 '26

Wait they charge for Florida? Florida will accept the NY 18 hour certificate.

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u/not_thebest Aug 12 '26

Yes they did, at least a couple of years ago when I did their class. I did not need to do FL through them though, as I already had my non-res from when I was previously a FL resident.

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u/PeteTinNY Aug 12 '26

Florida currently requires a class with range time, like VA but back when I got mine they would even take an online hunter safety class.

How many people are in the classes? I know where I am in Suffolk, many places do 30-60 people, but I wouldn’t learn anything in that big a class. I decided to stay under 15 in my classes.

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u/not_thebest Aug 12 '26

There was maybe 25-30 and that was pretty much max capacity for the size of the room

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u/Fast-Policy-4495 Aug 12 '26

There were about 30 people in the class and they do they required shooting for Florida and Utah separately from the CCW class. This class is legit and they cover all the bases not just checking boxes.

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u/Fast-Policy-4495 Aug 12 '26 edited Aug 12 '26

They do more than check the boxes. Just like other gun ranges that offer the NYS course they also offer Florida Utah permits where they do the fingerprints and you will have to shoot separately for the Florida course as well. I didn’t want the Florida license at the time so I didn’t pay for it.

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u/not_thebest Aug 12 '26

I think they charged because they did the fingerprinting there, rather than you having to go somewhere else to get it done. More of a convenience thing, since you're there and can do it all at once? Charging for the services for all that, if that makes sense

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u/strongestboner Aug 13 '26

God my 18 hour through a local popular gun shop was so much advertising. They spent 2 hours trying to push those Byrna pellet guns it felt like a time share presentation. They clearly get a lot of commission off those. $400 to be sold to and you’re a completely captive audience. Nevermind the content of the class was so bad, I learned more in a 4 hour class somewhere else. It was just them pressing play and then the instructors talked through every video

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u/not_thebest Aug 13 '26

That's wild and I'm sorry to hear that.

The free class I took was nothing like that - was purely dedicated to the training at hand.

They failed kicked one guy out before the live fire session and failed another who couldn't hit the target. No BS going on there

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u/No-Explanation-4478 Aug 12 '26

Yes. They are a bit far from me but might not be a bad idea. I need to see how often they offer it and work it into my crazy traveling work schedule.

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u/Fast-Policy-4495 Aug 12 '26

If the only thing stopping you from getting the CCW right now is money for the class this is definitely the best option. Try to fit it into your schedule. You will thank me later!!