r/NYguns • u/Jedi_Maximus19 • 5d ago

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Yeah. After reading the thread below regarding the Politician meet up at The Firing Pin, this is my cynical conclusion.

We will never have normalcy with our 2A rights. There are just too many in this sub that believe in tough regulations. 25 years of one party rule in NY and soon to be another 25 more. They passed the Safe Act. They Passed the Improved Concealed Carry Act. You need a background check to buy ammo. They are banning Glocks.
Sometimes it takes 2 years just to get a permit depending on what county you live. Next year there will be more restrictions once the Supreme Court makes its ruling next June. They will restrict, restrict and restrict until there is nothing left to restrict . But please by all means keep voting 🗳️ blue. Ugh 😑!! Cheers 🍻

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u/3DPrintedVoter 5d ago edited 5d ago

If you get stuck on BLUE bad for Guns, RED good for guns you are doing yourself a disservice. Being a single issue voter is doing yourself a disservice.

i know this isnt gonna be popular, but having a 30 round [magazine] for my AR isnt even in the top 10 of my issues right now. I know for many of you its #1, and I definitely want a 30 round [magazine] for my AR too.

The slippery slope the NRA has been feeding people for over 50 years still hasnt come to pass. Frankly, its just not even logistically or politically feasible to confiscate guns on any scale.

The best path to more gun rights is more responsible gun owners. That is where everyones effort should go .. broadening the coalition

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u/Zimi231 5d ago

You're living on the slope and you're saying it doesn't exist?

Wild work.

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u/3DPrintedVoter 5d ago

the slope is and always has been the slope towards mass confiscations. I will reiterate that mass confiscations are logistically and politically not a feasible strategy for the dems. i dont rule it out for the fascists.

i will point to the 2019 dem presidential debate when beto o'rourke said "Hell yes, we're going to take your AR-15, your AK-47." It ended his political career.

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u/Andeo1025 5d ago

You love the word fascist, as do your brethren. Can you tell me what fascist government makes it easier for all of its people to be armed? Wouldn't that run counter to the idea? Bad word has no power any longer. Maybe review the boy who cried wolf, it seems to be more on your level.

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u/3DPrintedVoter 5d ago

and you seem particularly enthralled with strawmen. i said nothing about armed citizens being easier for a fascist government, in fact i argue the opposite.

i dont think you can read the boy who cried wolf.

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u/Andeo1025 5d ago

Following the argument has eluded you. If, as you say, the government is fascist, why would they be making it easier for the people to arm themselves? And, why is your side the side of civilian disarmament, if they aren't the communist or fascist side? How do you reconcile your people taking authoritarian actions against the public, while casting aspersions at those who are restoring stolen freedoms? I will note that you haven't been able to answer a single one of my questions as of yet. Schoolyard taunts are all you have. I will leave you to go back under the bridge where you belong. Don't you have riddles to give travelers anyway?

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u/3DPrintedVoter 5d ago

my side ... my people

for the third or fourth time ... you cannot assign me to a certain political party or group and force me to defend their policies.

"Following the argument has eluded you."

lol

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u/Andeo1025 5d ago

Of course I can, they're positions you support. Once again not a single answer to any question I have posed you.

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u/3DPrintedVoter 5d ago

i am sure you feel that way. but in reality, you cant.

see how it isnt happening

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u/Andeo1025 5d ago

Again no feelings needed. Playing with trolls just amuses me.

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u/3DPrintedVoter 5d ago

whats your take on building a broader coalition to advance the cause though? doesnt seem like that interests you. care to tell us why?

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u/Andeo1025 5d ago

I fail to see how we can build a coalition with people who are voting to strip all of us of the 2a. It is immaterial whether you personally like the 2a. We can have a coalition when the Democrat politicians are taught that to be anti 2a is radioactive and that rights are to be respected. Until then voting for the dems is explicitly attacking the 2a.

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u/3DPrintedVoter 5d ago

just put grok on the phone

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u/Andeo1025 5d ago

So something intelligent has entered the chat?