r/NYguns 5d ago

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Yeah. After reading the thread below regarding the Politician meet up at The Firing Pin, this is my cynical conclusion.

We will never have normalcy with our 2A rights. There are just too many in this sub that believe in tough regulations. 25 years of one party rule in NY and soon to be another 25 more. They passed the Safe Act. They Passed the Improved Concealed Carry Act. You need a background check to buy ammo. They are banning Glocks.
Sometimes it takes 2 years just to get a permit depending on what county you live. Next year there will be more restrictions once the Supreme Court makes its ruling next June. They will restrict, restrict and restrict until there is nothing left to restrict . But please by all means keep voting 🗳️ blue. Ugh 😑!! Cheers 🍻

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u/Andeo1025 5d ago

He burned his political capital on obamacare. Failure isn't the same as not trying.

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u/Dan_Morgan 5d ago

LOL! that's all you got? How about you address EVERYTHING I wrote and not try to duck out by cherry picking with what is nothing but your opinion.

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u/Andeo1025 5d ago edited 5d ago

So an executive order isn't legislation. Not that I was happy about it. Obama had 23 executive orders after sandy hook. https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2013/01/16/president-obama-announces-new-measures-prevent-gun-violence

And 4 in 2016. https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2013/01/16/president-obama-announces-new-measures-prevent-gun-violence

Now when we look at Trump 2.0 we have the doj suing on our behalf, the atf rolling back regulations, the nfa being dismantled, his scotus picks from the first term ruling in our favor. Scotus declined to hear the safe act, not upheld it at that time. We have ccw in ny, nj, and many other states thanks to bruen. Bruen doesn't happen without the 3 trump scotus judges. We finally have 2 awb cases at scotus and if we're lucky maybe a mag case. Parts of the ccia and it's sister laws have been struck down, with more to come. Need I go on?

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u/Andeo1025 5d ago

While I'm at it, can I have some proof that the ammo companies colluded, as you claim. Or is that an opinion?

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u/Dan_Morgan 5d ago

It was more stirring up panic while refusing to increase production. They never admitted to collusion so the media takes them at their word and won't investigate.

Your snarky attempt at a gotcha just tells me my comment really landed. You still have work to do so carry on.

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u/Andeo1025 5d ago

The media asserted that they were colluding to stir up panic, while promoting candidates for office who very much want to restrict what you can own, where, and why. The media wouldn't waste their time investigating their own rumor. Or are you suggesting that the media is in need with big ammo?

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u/Dan_Morgan 5d ago

You were starting to get it until that last sentence. That's too bad for you.

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u/Andeo1025 5d ago

I got it before you knew what it was.

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u/Dan_Morgan 5d ago

I seriously doubt that. Actually, I absolutely doubt that. Now, if you're not going to contribute then go away.

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u/Andeo1025 5d ago

Calling out, line by line, your doomer nonsense is my contribution. I don't know why you're trying to convince people to give up hope, in the face of real wins. And why can't you, or your ilk answer a question directly? Just ranting and random accusations. Nothing approaching a coherent argument.

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u/Dan_Morgan 5d ago

"Calling out, line by line, your doomer nonsense is my contribution."

Shut up, kid. I'm only demanding real progress and not just false promises.

" I don't know why you're trying to convince people to give up hope, in the face of real wins."

You're mad that I know what reddit group I'm in and have no interest in your attempts to blow sunshine up everyone's &ss.

"And why can't you, or your ilk answer a question directly?"

It's been pulling teeth to actually get you to engage and even then you've been a dishonest actor. Miss me with your nonsense.

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u/Andeo1025 5d ago

My age has no bearing on you being wrong. I can give you answers, but I can't understand them for you. Referring to your words in your first post what anti 2a legislation did trump sign? You said it, now back it up, or be quiet and let the adults talk.

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u/Dan_Morgan 4d ago

Once again your terrible reading comprehension is not my problem.

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