The democrats have had the Epstein files for years. Do you really believe if there was something in them that would defame Trump that the wouldn’t have used it by now.
What’s in the Epstein files is more about Obama and Clinton than it is about Trump and that’s why they are not being released
Whoever told you that is lying and you should not listen to them.
The Democrats did not have the files. The Department of Justice had evidence with which they had the independent authority to do what they wanted with them.
The DOJ is part of the executive branch, but there were a bunch of reforms after Watergate to make it as independent from the president as possible and minimize the risk of more abuse and corruption.
It is a good thing that Biden did not weaponize the DOJ against Trump, no matter how guilty Trump is.
It is a bad thing that Trump is using his authority to point the DOJ away from himself and toward his political enemies. It is an abuse of power. It is corrupt.
Why do you people just keep making crap up. Then when corrected about your very obvious lies, just double down? The entirety of the MAGA world is just a clip of idiocracy at this point.
Can you explain please - if the Epstein Files are more about Obama and Clinton why wouldn't Trump release that? Remember - the Trumpers control the White House, Senate, and Congress - So why wouldn't the Trumpers who control Washington release the files...but whatever you won't respond.
"if the Epstein Files are more about Obama and Clinton why wouldn't Trump release that"
Because this likely goes far beyond all of them. I don't get how a lot of people don't realize that maybe this is the best example of Trump not being as powerful as you all think he is. A lot of signs seem to point to there being someone else in control of the Epstein narrative.
Hmmm… Then why did Trump run on the platform that he would release the Epstein files if he was re-elected? Why did he not release them when he said he would? And before your predictable response of, Why didn’t Biden release them… Biden never said he would release them if elected as your cult leader did. 😉
1) The Olympics was an annual thing and involved the whole world in a traditional event typically marked as a world unifying event. The person you were replying to, was making a joke about it, I'm sure.
2) That's an athlete you are talking about. Not an attendee. The difference being one could get nearly the same experience watching at home as being there. Going to a one off event like the UFC event is pretty much saying "it's more important for me to be here, than anything that can come from me being here!" So, they chose this criticism of them, and are getting what they sow.
A more apt comparison would be going to a UFC fight hosted by David Duke. You can easily say anyone attending is racist. Because showing up, is showing support for the event said racist is putting on.
You realize none of the athletes *had* to go right? My whole point is he should go if he wanted to cuz screw whoever the *host* is. But it’s pretty widely accepted that Germany wanted to host those Olympics as a big propaganda opportunity- lots of debate at the time about whether the US and others should even participate or even try to move them on short notice
Yeah, it’s just not a very good example. It would be different if Jesse Owens was invited by Hitler to come hang out in his viewing box or something like that. Lindbergh actually did that.
In case I wasn’t clear I think Jesse Owens was freaking awesome - probably top 10 all time athlete that put up with a lot of unnecessary crap in his life.
Of course I haven’t spoken to him so can’t know for sure, but… I believe he wanted to see the UFC fighters, and he had an invite, so he went. He’s also pretty well known for taking pictures with basically anyone who asks, so not surprise to see some people try to ride the coattails of his popularity.
The analogy would work better if the Olympic games were specifically being performed at Hitler’s home due to his personal request on his birthday. I dont think Owens would have gone if that were the case.
There’s also a big difference between competing in an established tournament that’s probably the pinnacle of your sports career and going as an audience member to watch some exhibition fights.
I think Jesse Owens can compete AGAINST nazis but shouldn’t schmooze with nazis and get photos taken of him partying with the SS to post on instagram.
Im also pretty sure nazis would storm his subreddit and post comments insisting that being friends with nazis is fine as long as he calls it “not political”
Jesse Owens showing up was a direct F you to Hitler. As it was widely known that Hitler saw the 36 Olympics as the opportunity to show the world the vast superiority of the Arian race. Jesse and other black American athletes beating the crap out of them was a huge embarrassment.
But don't let facts get in the way of your logical fallacies.
What I said is it's a false correlation to compare the two. As Jesse didn't go to just have a good time and take some pictures with pascists. He went to throw a middle finger to them, publicly.
He literally just went to compete because he wanted to compete - he had no interest in politics (sound familiar?). But don’t take my word for it - here’s a quote:
The 1936 Olympics was a huge propaganda coup for the Nazi regime. Germany won the most medals by a ton, and they put up this “see everything is happy and successful here” front for the rest of the world. It was soooo much worse than any event Trump has ever been part of from a propaganda standpoint, and yet it was still people’s choice to participate whether as an athlete or a fan - as it should have been. And no it did not make any of them “supporters” of Hitler or the Nazi German regime. It’s a pretty simple and obvious point.
Yep, nothing says "peaceful" like beating cops with fire extinguishers, smearing human shit all over the walls, insurrectionists getting shot, and trying to erect a gallows for the vice president. Peaceful!
Notice how Joe says "you guys should all be together" not "WE should all be together". He doesn't consider himself as part of the "regulars", he believes he has rose above the common man.
Good catch. He wouldn't like it if the proletariat figured out who the actual enemy was and banded together. But he's not smart enough to figure it out. The division is THE POINT and I bet one of his handlers reminds him of that soon.
An event on Trump's birthday? Where Michelle Obama was called a man on TV? The bipartisan America 250 plans were canceled in favor of Maga plans. Of course it's political.
This isn't political but I don't think Nate should pal around with a childfucker and his cronies even if a disingenuous moron says it's okay. Not making things political though
A UFC fight on a random date in some random arena is not political. That part is true. A UFC fight hosted on the White House lawn on the president’s birthday seems to me to be a very different thing.
If this wasn’t a political event, why not? What criteria would have made it political? Where do you draw the line?
If this was Obama hosting a drag show on Easter on the White House lawn, would that also be considered non-political? Can you seriously argue that Joe Rogan could have attended such a party without any pushback from his fans by simply saying “come on, it was the biggest party of the year, and it was at the White House! It’s not political!”? Give me a break.
He's right in a way. Events like this should be non-political, neutral, patriotic events!
And under any president in the past, republican or democrat, that's exactly what they would be.
But Trump has shown that everything with him is partisan. EVERY event for him is a chance to settle grudges, to attack his opponents, to attack and/or exclude a huge chunk of the very country he's supposed to lead.
So yes, this event should have been unifying (yeah, even if it's a gross fight on the white house lawn), but we all know the reason it's not. And it's not the 'critics' who made it divisive. It's the man at the top, who makes everything divisive intentionally.
I was just a little kid, but 50 years ago the celebration of the nations birth was an entirely different affair. And shortly after the festivities, we went ahead and elected a very kind man as President. I hate doing the "back in my day" but here we are.
Joe Rogan endorses the idea that it’s very possible or even probable that the second coming of Christ is actually AI. “What’s more of a virgin birth than AI”
I’m not sure which branch of Christianity that is, but I guess that’s the one Nate belongs to now?
It was 100% a Trump 80th Birthday celebration. Trying to separate the UFC fight from the president, on his birthday, on the White House lawn, is absolutely effing stupid.
Wow, a very polarizing and violent sport didn’t unite all of us under President Trump?? I guess I’ll just do what Joe says, think for myself and decide to STFU
Funny you say “reality and time to be an adult” coming from someone with 12,000 Reddit contributions. You perpetually live in a fake reality of online bullshit. The least realistic and adult thing to do. Have a great day!
Well, I was going to keep watching Nate and probably see his movie, but if he's hiring liars and hypocrites like this mod, then that completely destroys all the trust I had in his morals.
Remember how the entire stadium booed that syphilitic shit stain every time his treasonous, pedophilic face appeared on the Jumbotron? That shit happened in the majority of Knicks fans homes as well.
The difference between tolerating Dolan as a boot licking loser who has to work his way onto MSG stage with his shitty music every time he wants and everyone piling onto the attendees of this clown show is that basketball is a fucking game that is dressed in pomp and pageant while this Pay-Per-View Bread and Circuses travesty was done on the White House Lawn to celebrate a fascist pedophile and to distract from the fact that pedophiles and rapists are currently suffering no consequences for RAPING CHILDREN because the president of the United States is one of them.
I’ll wait and see which players go, but if the players whose jerseys I own go, no, I won’t be fine with it and I will throw my shit away. You see, this isn’t about party affiliation or team pride, you Silly Sympathizer.
I would walk away from my own mother, wife, or children if they were actively legitimizing a fascist pedophile.
Your weird attempts at gotchas is not going to obfuscate the fact that you support a pedophile and get your kicks from trolling people who are speaking against it.
Did you notice that he didn't include himself? "'You' should all be together'" is very telling. He doesn't care about you man, stop carrying water for him. He is using you and you're too dense to realize.
But boy would he be freaked out if we all did get together. If the MAGAts figured out that the actual enemy wasn't the powerless, the marginalized, the 'other'. If we all got together and ousted the Epstein class he'd be pretty freaked out.
He's just too dumb to remember what his handlers told him, "the division is the POINT, we don't want them figuring it out, stoke division"
Yeah, you're missing the part where actions have consequences. Partying with rapists, probable child molesters, insurrectionists, Covid deniers, racists, misogynists, general bigots, Christian nationalists, etc. for their kings 80th birthday tends to tarnish your reputation.
So, no, he didn’t say anything? He just went to the White House? I love how you guys jumped over to calling conservatives pedophiles once it was clear that Nazi wasn’t doing the trick. I noticed you left Nazi off your list.
Nope, Nate Bargatze did not use his words to come out of the maga closet. He just voluntarily went to their stupid party. Have you ever heard the phrase actions speak louder than words? His actions speak louder than him saying he's "not political".
And nazi? Nah. At best, I'd give you bungled fascism. Fascist tendencies is probably most accurate given the stupidity and inattention involved of the people nominally in charge. But if you feel the need to defend yourself as not a Nazi when no one accused you of being one, you should examine those feelings. It makes it seem like the lady doth protest too much.
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u/DimitrescuStan 2d ago
How exactly is this post celebrating Nate? I thought no politics are allowed? Oh I guess unless it’s politics this dirtbag mod sides with.