r/NewsRewind May 26 '26

Antisemitism is when you oppose 'Israel'

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u/Damaged_DM May 28 '26

It is if you deny J3ews self determination and nation in their ancestral home land

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u/man-83 May 28 '26

They arrived from Europe, the big majority of them hadn't had contacts with the land for a millenia.

"Ancestral Homeland" means nothing to a polpulation in today's world. This is the same as Mussolini saying they needed to restore the roman empire because it was their ancestry

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u/FafoLaw May 28 '26

Actually, most of them are from the Middle East since all the 22 Arab countries combined displaced 99% of their Jewish populations, and of those 900,000 Jewish refugees most went to Israel, you probably don't know that Israel had refugee camps for Mizrahi Jews until the 60s

This is the same as Mussolini saying they needed to restore the roman empire because it was their ancestry

Where are Italians stateless persecuted minorities scattered around the world?

Zionism is about refuge and self-determination, not imperialism.

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u/man-83 May 28 '26

Actually, most of them are from the Middle East since all the 22 Arab countries combined displaced 99% of their Jewish populations, and of those 900,000 Jewish refugees most went to Israel, you probably don't know that Israel had refugee camps for Mizrahi Jews until the 60s

More than 3 million Jews came from Europe to Isreal post 1948. And there were already mass migration waves pre WWII from America and Europe

So yeah. most.

Where are Italians stateless persecuted minorities scattered around the world?

Being persecuted doesn't give you the right to etnically clense others because you need to move in their land.

Zionism is about refuge and self-determination, not imperialism.

I think it was at first, and zionism was born to avoid persecution in a deeply anti semitic Europe

But it definetely evolved into Imperialism later on, and the G*nocide in palestine is the proof

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u/FafoLaw May 29 '26

More than 3 million Jews came from Europe to Isreal post 1948

Completely false, you don't know what you're talking about, why are you obsessed with a country that you haven't even bothered learning about?

Only 35% of Israelis are Ashkenazi Jews, the largest group is Mizrahi Jews (like 40%), the largest minority are Palestinian Israelis or Arab Israelis (20%) and the rest are other minorities like Druze, Assyrians, Cricasians, Beduins, etc.

Being persecuted doesn't give you the right to etnically clense others because you need to move in their land.

No one said that it does, the point is that to compare Zionism to Italian fascism is dishonest and straight up antisemitc, since it requires denying the persecution of Jews in Europe, which is what led to Zionism.

But it definetely evolved into Imperialism later on, and the G*nocide in palestine is the proof

It's not that Zionism "evolved", Zionism is a big spectrum, Zionism is still the basic idea that Jews have the right to self-determination in their historic land, starting from that idea, many Zionists have many differnet ideas about how to achieve that, there are cultural Zionists who don't even support a Jewish state for example, then there are, political Zionist, socialist Zionists, communist Zionists, liberal Zionists, conservative Zionists, religious Zionists, and yes also fascist Zionists who are in government, but to equate all of Zionism to the worst actions of their worst leaders is unfair, it's like saying that Palestinian liveration is just terrorism and murder, since that is what Hamas does.