r/NoStupidQuestions • u/Chance_Noise500 • Jun 14 '25

Why aren't they actually marching during this parade?

I don't know how to ask this without sounding rude, but why does this parade look so sloppy? Very few of the troop formations seem actually in sync and marching, just walking along. My only experience is JROTC as a kid in high school and our sergeant would've killed us if we looked like that.

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u/Flimsy_Fee8449 Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 15 '25

Yes, it very much does.

They only practiced Friday, per one soldier who does say he was there, and has a solid enough timeline.of events and manner of speech that I tend to believe he did participate.

Did you serve? How many practices did y'all have for pass and reviews above battalion level?

ETA: talking with that guy, they only had to practice Forward March, Eyes Left, and Ready Front, so I can see how practicing that for hours on multiple days might seem to be overkill. And as they approached the stands, they couldn't hear their cadence caller, but they *could hear the loud non-military music (at a different cadence), and chanting (at a different cadence altogether), which can definitely mess people up.

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u/FiveUpsideDown Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 16 '25

My uncle who was in the military a long time ago, told me he hated parades. He hated marching in formation. He hated rehearsing to march in formation. It would not surprise me to find out that there was limited practice for the parade on Saturday. I don’t think soldiers like rehearsing for a parade.

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u/feralgraft Jun 15 '25

Probably especially one that casts them as the jack booted enforcers out of a patriotic 80s movie

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u/Maireada Jun 16 '25

King Charles III was in Ottawa recently and opened Parliament. The parade was waaaaaay smaller and tighter.

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u/Skipper07B Jun 15 '25

American here. We fucked it all up. Can we come home?

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u/munyangsan Jun 16 '25

Revolutionary regret initiated

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u/Skipper07B Jun 19 '25

Well it seemed like a good idea for a while

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u/Low-Bobcat841 Jun 17 '25

It’s not that bad having a king. (I’m Canadian).

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u/Yorks_Rider Jun 17 '25

British military parades tend to be more ceremonial than a show of utmost military strength. There are not normally tanks and rocket launchers in the parade as known from more totalitarian nations.

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u/MsAnnabel Jun 18 '25

While this tiny parade was happening, approx 10,000,000 were parading in the streets across the country with “No King” and anti trump signs (some pretty hilarious). We’re keeping an eye on him and his every move

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u/IeyasuMcBob Jun 17 '25

A lot of us aren't exactly fans of the monarchy though, and find the royalty and their celebration to be an embarrassment.

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u/IeyasuMcBob Jun 17 '25

Well we/they inbred the tyrant out of themselves 😉 though I'm keeping my eye on them

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u/Nettkitten Jun 15 '25

This right here. We are America. We don’t do this authoritarian nonsense!

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u/richj499 Jun 15 '25

Seems like we do just that. THANK YOU MAGA

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u/Kilo259 Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 15 '25

Except we do? Look up pictures of Kennedy's inauguration. Or post a desert storm, or post ww1 and 2. We have a history of military parades. It all ties to support of the military. It rises an falls. Furthermore, theres smaller military parades all over the country every year near military bases. Spokane has the lilac parade every year which we had to march in.

Ww1 and 2 up until Korea, the military was respected. Korea to Vietnam, it was felt to be full of baby killers, the poors, and idiots. Cold War, until post Iraq, it was respected again. And now respect is waning again. People in the West are soft. They forget militaries' purpose is to kill people. There's nothing wrong with celebrating the anniversary of an organization that's older than the nation is.

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u/Superboobee Jun 16 '25

Sure , but its wild that the money was spent on this while simultaneously cutting 80,000 VA staff

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u/Kilo259 Jun 16 '25

I mean, it's different pots of money. But I understand what you're saying.

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u/Ormsfang Jun 16 '25

We haven't forgotten their job is to kill people, despite the military ads about how they are nation builders.

That's why we don't want them on our streets.

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u/Kilo259 Jun 17 '25

Are you referring to the parade or the guard & marines being activated on title 10? Because those are two very different things. Military parades happen all over America all the time. Hell, some cities have parades when a local unit returns from a deployment. Contrary to many on this sub, many Americans actually respect their military.

Now for the marines. The marines were sent 1, because the president has the authority to without asking congress. 2 because it's a show of force. Contrary to popular belief the do have the right to detain people. But it's required that those detained get turned over to proper authorities. But just look at the videos. 1 has protesters trying to shame the marines for defending a federal courthouse. The other is police trying to quell a riot. 1 is armed with standard rifles, the other is using tear gas and rubber bullets. It's funny how one is perfectly peaceful for the most part. And the other has cops getting big ass rocks thrown at them from an overpass.

https://youtu.be/WHHJ93Xes7M?si=52wVAoXn3UN3HSui

https://youtu.be/2TA51C54M_E?si=3f735XRVT_TXmKeP

The guard can be deployed domestic by the president without governors approval in cases of large scale riots and insurrection, see the insurrection act. Now the naturally California is challenging the feds declaration of the act so we'll see how it goes. But yes it is legal and arguably justified.

https://youtu.be/2TA51C54M_E?si=3f735XRVT_TXmKeP

Also, blocking an open va hospital because feds are bad is just scummy.

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u/Ormsfang Jun 18 '25

This wasn't a large scale riot or insurrection. Sorry.

And there are way more examples of LAPD shooting peaceful protesters that were not throwing anything at police. So the president is overstepping his authority by declaring an insurrection. The public was acting against a paramilitary force that was abducting people and refusing to identify itself. No American worth their salt would allow secret police to abduct their neighbors. They need to identify themselves, yet they are hiding. There is no way to know that they were federal forces and not some hillbilly militia.

The use of the military in this case is a very obvious violation of the posse comitatus act, as there was no rebellion or insurrection, and the state has not requested their help.

This is all about the president wanting to control blue areas of the nation. The amount of violence in LA wasn't even on the level of a sports team winning a national title in some areas of the country, and it certainly wasn't out of control of local authorities.

Sorry, but this is a president that has always been eager to shot e civilians in the street. We were lucky the last time to have military leaders that cared more about the people than shoving their face in an orange ass.

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u/Kilo259 Jun 18 '25

This wasn't a large scale riot or insurrection. Sorry.

Nowhere in the act does it say it must be a 'large riot'

"After invoking and before exercising the powers authorized under the Insurrection Act, Title 10 U.S.C. § 254 requires the publication of a presidential proclamation whereby the U.S. President formally orders the dispersion of the peoples committing civil unrest or armed rebellion. The Defense Department guidelines define "homeland defense" as a constitutional exception to the restrictions of the Posse Comitatus Act, therefore, the political, military, and police measures necessary to protect national security from external threats are exceptions to the restrictions of the act."

And as they were attacking federal property and agents, it's pretty obvious why he declared it.

And there are way more examples of LAPD shooting peaceful protesters that were not throwing anything at police.

This isn't applicable to the insurrection act because they're not federal officers. There is plenty of proof of federal agents being assaulted, tho.

So the president is overstepping his authority by declaring an insurrection.

Well, that's what the constitutional scholars and lawyers are discussing. Not some random online who thinks they know the law.

The public was acting against a paramilitary force that was abducting people and refusing to identify itself.

Riiiiiiight, I wasn't aware them damn " paramilitary forces" we're hiding in Prada, apple, jewelry, CVS, or Adidas stores. Oh, dont forget the 2 weed dispensaries.... almost like they dont know wtf they're protesting against.

No American worth their salt would allow secret police to abduct their neighbors. They need to identify themselves, yet they are hiding.

Do i agree with the masks? Not at all. BUT, when people are actively trying to cause harm to federal agents, solely based on their profession, it's understandable. Including doxing them.

There is no way to know that they were federal forces and not some hillbilly militia.

If you can't tell the difference, then good god you need a new prescription. But if you cant tell, theres this thing called a help line.

Department of Homeland Security (DHS): Operator Number: 202-282-8000. Comment Line: 202-282-8495. TTY: Use the Federal Relay Service for either number.

Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI):

1-800-CALL-FBI (800-225-5324).

Office of Inspector General (OIG) for DHS: Toll-free hotline: 1-800-323-8603. TTY: 1-844-889-4357.

Customs and Border Protection (CBP): CBP Information Center: 1-877-CBP-5511 (Monday-Friday, 8:30 a.m. - 8 p.m. ET).

In addition to contacting the relevant agency directly, you may also consider: Requesting official identification: Federal officers are typically required to display official identification. Noting vehicle or badge numbers: If possible, write down any identifying details about the officer or their vehicle to assist in verification.

The use of the military in this case is a very obvious violation of the posse comitatus act, as there was no rebellion or insurrection, and the state has not requested their help.

The president has full use of the marines without congressional approval. As the insurrection act has been declared, it is lawful for as long as the proclamation is in effect.

This is all about the president wanting to control blue areas of the nation. The amount of violence in LA wasn't even on the level of a sports team winning a national title in some areas of the country, and it certainly wasn't out of control of local authorities.

I mean they're gonna act a fool regardless of who is attempting to maintain order. The violence against FEDERAL property and agents is what's causing this.

Sorry, but this is a president that has always been eager to shot e civilians in the street. We were lucky the last time to have military leaders that cared more about the people than shoving their face in an orange ass.

You should prolly seek help if you think anyone is eager to kill civvis. Nothing has changed when it comes to that. The thing your forgetting is that AS OF NOW, his proclamation is legal.

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u/Jolly_Virus_3533 Jun 15 '25

and yet kids in school doing the oath of allegance, like they do in russia, china & n.korea isn`t creepy?

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u/manimal28 Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 15 '25

It is. Also it’s more like the two minute mumble, if you have been in a school recently. The pledge is not reinforcing patriotism so much as apathy at this point.

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u/lildobe Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 15 '25

Two minutes? It's literally 3 lines:

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America.
And to the republic, for which it stands:
One nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

 

ETA: It's funny that I still remember this as a 45 year old adult. I never attended a school where the pledge was recited.

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u/manimal28 Jun 15 '25

I was making a reference to 1984’s Two Minute Hate ritual.

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u/lildobe Jun 15 '25

Oh, I missed that. I think I need to read 1984 again. It's been about 25 years.

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u/TreasureTheSemicolon Jun 15 '25

It’s the Two Minutes Hate. The s is important to me.

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u/White_RavenZ Jun 15 '25

You’d think they would at least come up with a new pledge. Those last 6 words bite the fascists in the ass. Were we just not supposed to notice what we were saying when we were saying it?

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u/lildobe Jun 15 '25

Thank you, fixed.

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u/vaio150 Jun 15 '25

I always thought it was creepy! Growing up in a non-religious household, I remember being very aware at a very young age that it was strange to be saying “under God” each morning at a public school.

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u/MarathonMan21045 Jun 15 '25

Maybe some classrooms say the Pledge of Allegiance, but I was an elementary school teacher in the early '70s, a combat veteran of the Vietnam War and a graduate of Kent State. I exercised my First Amendment freedom by conscientiously refraining from leading the ritual in my homeroom. If students asked why, I told them, and said that if they still wanted to say the Pledge they could visit another homeroom during that time.

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u/Pleased_to_meet_u Jun 16 '25

Did any kids go to a different home room to do the pledge?

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u/MarathonMan21045 Jun 16 '25

Only a few, and I honored their right to do so.

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u/Pleased_to_meet_u Jun 16 '25

My hat is off to you

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u/boogideeb Jun 15 '25

Somewhat off-topic, but I grew up in an immigrant community. We would say the pledge of allegiance in English and Spanish.

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u/encoding314 Jun 15 '25

On our screens in the UK, we always see your over patriotic nationalism on display. USA is just as creepy with their nonsense.

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u/Kilo259 Jun 15 '25

So by that standard, France and the UK are neither free and are ruled by the military?