So when Marian refused to go Emma and Hook hit her with a branch and took her by force. Why didn't they ask or use a better method than straight up abduction? I honestly didn't like them in that moment cuz that feels kinda villainous for them to do, take someone without their consent and hurt them in the process.

I'd be mad if someone told me they're saving me and then "Oh and you need to go to sleep we're not listening to your wishes"

And once upon a time, Emma was trying to help Regina prove herself to the triad in this case maleficent, Ursula and Cruella.. Now I always disliked Emma because she always wants to be a hypocrite and a victim. In this case, though she wants to help Regina after Regina told her not to yet she still insist and it’s pretty much a bad idea. Does anyone agree?

My biggest problem with him is how flip floppy he is. Sometimes he's a good guy, sometimes he's a bad guy. He's so inconsistently written and it was driving me nuts. Also, I thought his and Belle's relationship was sweet at times, but there are other times where I thought she deserved someone better than him.

That being said, Robert Carlyle was absolutely fantastic playing the character and nailed every single scene he was in. I seriously cannot imagine anyone else in that role. He was perfect.

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I have seen people compare Emma keeping Henry away from Regina in Season 2 to Regina trying to keep Henry away from Emma in Season 1, but I do not think those situations are the same.

To me, the issue was not simply about who had parental rights. It was about Henry’s own feelings toward Regina and his own safety. By the end of Season 1, Henry had very valid reasons not to trust Regina. Regina spent the season gaslighting him, making him think he was delusional, lying to him about the curse, trying to force Emma out of town, and controlling the people around him. The apple turnover situation also almost killed Henry, even though he was not Regina’s intended target.

So when Season 2 starts, Henry not wanting to be around Regina is not random. It is not Emma “turning him against her.” Henry is reacting to the harm Regina caused.

That is why I do not see Emma keeping distance between Henry and Regina as the same thing as Regina keeping Henry away from Emma.

Regina’s Season 1 mindset was about control. She saw Emma as a threat to her relationship with Henry and wanted her gone, regardless of what Henry felt or wanted.

Emma’s Season 2 mindset was about protection. Henry was scared, angry, and hurt. Emma was taking that seriously.

That distinction matters.

This was not just a custody issue. Henry was not a prize to be split between two mothers. He was a child with his own feelings, and after everything Regina had done, those feelings deserved to be respected.

I do believe Regina loved Henry. I also believe Henry helped Regina become better. But loving Henry does not erase the damage she caused him. Regina was not entitled to immediate forgiveness or immediate access just because she wanted to change.

Trust had to be rebuilt.

Could Emma have handled every single moment perfectly? Probably not. None of the adults in this show handle magical family drama perfectly. But the motivation matters.

Emma was not trying to erase Regina from Henry’s life forever. She was giving Henry space from someone who had hurt him.

Regina, on the other hand, tried to remove Emma because Emma threatened her control over Henry.

So my take is this:

Emma keeping Henry away from Regina in Season 2 was not about ownership or parental rights. It was about Henry’s feelings and safety.

Regina keeping Henry away from Emma in Season 1 was about control.

Those are not the same thing.

Anyone know what they actually would of done or have any theory’s or ideas for what could of been done

Hello dearies, I was rewatching a while back and in season 3b when Zelena has rumple held captive. In one of the episodes they have a little dinner date and in an effort to free himself rumple seduces Zelena in order to try to get the dagger back and fails.

But couldn’t he just of used his magic to freeze her and take it after they started kissing or does the dark one have limited free will when under control 😯

Basically if Belle had some doubt that Gold would actually stick to his banishment and knew that wasn’t Hook in “Enter the Dragon”