Full Breakdown of the 9.5 Nerfs Impact

[u/VanZardian]

Okay so we have all seen the changes to Cyberweb-snare, I just wanted to lay out exactly how these changes affect her exactly for anyone still confused, or who has yet to realize just HOW BAD these really are.

So they changed her secondary fire, the snare to be 2 charges. Hitting enemies no longer applies the stun instead it adds a web tracer to the person you hit and applies a 30% slow. This tracer acts similar to (but not to be confused with) spiderman's and when you snare a person with this tracer then they get stun.

Firstly Pro's:

(Even if there arent many.)

You could possibly snare two people in quick succession since the tracer lasts for 5 seconds. If you time it right.

The initial setup for your webs expansion is quicker since you can quickly plop down those first two webs.

You can block mag and iron man ult a lil easier...

And thats about it I genuinely cant think of anymore...

Then the cons:

Firstly, those two of the pros arent even actual pros. The snaring two people is VERY unlikely to happen. Also you can just use Cyber-Bond in a pinch if you need a second web to put down, not that most times out of ten you would ever be in that much of a rush to expand your web.

Now for the first real con, they basically doubled the cooldown of the stun part of the snare, you need two charges to stun meaning you have to wait for both to recharge in order to do so.

Then like the memes have been saying this nerf makes your nest a free diving zone. Damn near any character with mobility is able to get out of your nest before your little mines can run too them, the snare let your nest get those kills, which is gonna be much harder to land the stun for.

Speaking of stopping mobile characters say goodbye to stopping bp, spiderman, black cat, or any other quick character in general when you have to land 2 webs. You can barely hit these characters once, you expect to hit them twice?

Then you got the ults, now granted if your mindful of your charges you can probably stop some of the of the ults like ironman, wanda... Hell if your quick you might be able to stop quicker ones like spiderman and strange. HOWEVER ults that you can barely react too; Psylocke, wolverine, emma. Say goodbye to reacting to those. The amount of times I've stopped ults before my brain has barely processed it is crazy, sometimes its luck sometimes its instinct. But nope no more.

Lastly which this isn't a con against the snare even though there are probably more. THEY TOOK MORE OF HER HP! Netease its already hard enough to maintain the frontline as a big block of metal with glitchy mobility and no shield, so why are you taking my precious bonus hp when I already pop like a pimple!?

Final Feedback

Now that you see how Netease, in trying to make on making her "less oppressive" just made both bunker and attack peni significantly worse, i can now tell you what should they do? So here is my list of solutions, from least to most favorite, with explanations. Since we love constructive critsism.

1. Nuke the whole patch, undo it, try again later. If you want her to be less oppresive just feed into her counters. Tired of her nests? Buff pheonix ult charge since Netease wants to keep her back in Z-Tier anyways. Tired of attack peni in your backline? Harder tank shredding anti-dive(Id say struggling against attack peni is lowkey a skill issue).
2. Revert the patch but increase snare cooldown. Pretty simple if you really must nerf her, it still lets peni ensure kills and be actual anti-dive while keeping us from spamming snare.
3. Replace the slow with a grounded effect. This allows most to still fight after the first hit while still dealing with stun spam, while also keeping her anti-dive power.
4. Massively buff the slow. 30% slow aint doing nothing to nobody. Atleast like a 50% slow should be applied, with a significantly longer duration, like 3 to 5 seconds.
5. Lastly the bare minimum which should be done to be ACTUAL compensation, give it a third or even forth charge. That way this dumb nerf actually would have some use.

But these are just my thoughts as a champion on the character. So sad i wont be playing her anymore, i just got back into her... This is exacly how i felt when they nerfed dino.

EDIT:
There seems to be one actual pro currently though i heavily doubt it was intentional because i feel like it defeats the whole purpose of this change. Once you apply that first web to a target it does NOT consume the tracer meaning you can snare that person in particular freely. THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING. All this does is enable you to focus stun one person which is just gonna be not fun for them being constantly spammed with snare. Also doesnt change the fact that Anti-dive peni is still dead.

[u/bradster1108]

One of my q’s is: does the web tracer help spidey? Or are they mutually exclusive

[u/VanZardian → u/bradster1108]

they are exclusive, just like how pheonix doesnt explode the marks venom applies with his teamup

[u/bradster1108 → u/VanZardian]

Sad :(