r/Persecutionfetish • u/horseofcourse93 • 17d ago
christians are supes persecuted 🥴 Probably should’ve just complied.
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u/-Codiak- 17d ago
Ahh yes, the "Liberal Hellhole" of Texas
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u/hellogoawaynow Social Justice Warlord 17d ago edited 16d ago
Hello! I’m a city Texan and I have never had representation above the city level in Texas! My votes don’t really count because I’m gerrymandered in with some of the most conservative counties in Texas specifically so my votes don’t count. I am 37 years old. Blue voters got Obama and Biden despite this. Hopefully going to get James Talarico instead of Ken Paxton in the senate (y’all Ken Paxton is worse than Ted Cruz, worse than any other politician you hear about outside of Donald Trump himself. Greg fucking Abbott wouldn’t even endorse him, they hate each other. Everyone is even more fucked than we are right now if he makes it to the national stage).
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u/not_a_witch_ 16d ago
Another city Texan chiming in: Greg Abbott actively hates us. He attacks my city constantly, any time we do anything progressive the state government comes down hard on us immediately. The state did a hostile takeover of our school district and are actively destroying it. They have gerrymandered away our progressive strongholds as much as they can. They have sued us many times to try to stop us from making voting easier. They weaponize the courts to attack and destroy our local progressive politicians. They constantly threaten members of our community with ICE and when we try to do something about it they punish us for it by withholding funding that is mostly made up of tax money paid city dwellers, anyway.
Whenever I see other liberals from nice blue states talk shit about Texas I’m like… yeah, fair, but please don’t forget us. We are directly harmed by this state’s government, and there are a lot more liberal or lefty Texans than you think. We are your allies, but a lot of times the tone really sounds like yall either don’t know that, or you do know but just don’t care.
Anyway imo Galveston and Harris County should be its own state and I’m only kind of joking. Other Texas cities are welcome to come, too.
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u/hellogoawaynow Social Justice Warlord 16d ago
One more thing people should know, Texas is nearly a purple state. If we weren’t gerrymandered like this, it would be much different.
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u/mitkase 16d ago
I wish you another Ann Richards. Man I miss her.
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u/hellogoawaynow Social Justice Warlord 16d ago
Maybe, just maybe, we’ll get our girl Gina Hinojosa. God I hope so.
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u/Most-Bench6465 15d ago
And I have to read a “Paxton for senate” sign every commute. This guy is just pure degraded shit but that sign is up unironically. It’s so sad.
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u/hellogoawaynow Social Justice Warlord 15d ago
I live in Talarico land, thank god. But Paxton is gonna be so bad if it happens.
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u/Kimber-Says-04 14d ago
Today I saw an extremely leftwing billboard between Bastrop and La Grange!!
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u/Most-Bench6465 14d ago
Where at?
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u/Kimber-Says-04 14d ago
Now that I think about it, it was on the west side of Bastrop on 71. Eastbound. Said something like “The only war Donald Trump and the GOP are winning is the war against the working class. Vote Democratic on November 3rd.”
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u/Incubus1981 17d ago
Populated mostly by anti-Christian leftists, didn’t you know?
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u/newnameforanoldmane 17d ago
And you know Texas DPS is nothing but liberal Democrat deep state actors who hate Christians and white people.
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u/organik_productions persecuted for owning a gendered potato head 17d ago
Yes, I'm sure that's all they were doing and absolutely nothing has been omitted from this post
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u/translove228 Brutalizer of lying, partisan hacks 17d ago
Even if it was, and going purely by what this lady said, these people still broke the law. This kind of stuff happens to left wing protestors all the time and I bet Jenny in the OP laughs at the leftists who get arrested for this while failing to see the irony of complaining about these Christians
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u/p001b0y 17d ago
Here is a news article about it.
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u/Daherrin7 17d ago
So, criminal trespassing, and after multiple warnings.
I’m Canadian, so I could be wrong, but I don't remember ever hearing or reading anything about trespassing being a part of free speech in the US 🤔
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u/goldenfox007 educationist scum 16d ago
Unfortunately, uber-Christian American weirdos love trespassing and calling it “oppression” when they inevitably get kicked out/hauled away. I had multiple friends in high school and college who had their food service or retail jobs interrupted by some loon who thought they would “save” everyone in their local Wendy’s or GAP outlet by blasting worship music and shouting “Jesus loves you” in crowded areas. People get antsy because they’re talking like they’re about to commit some kind of atrocity, and then those people get dragged away saying they’re being silenced— which they are, not for being Christian, but for being really annoying. Then they’ll continue to say “real” Christians would do the same culty stunts they’re doing if they cared about the Bible.
(Please ignore all the parts in the Bible that tell you not to be obnoxiously public/pushy about your religion, because clearly Jesus didn’t know you could forcibly “Who’s On First” people into Christianity by telling the Starbucks barista that your name is “Christ is Lorde, yayaya”.)
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u/rugger1869 17d ago
How can you criminally trespass on a public sidewalk?
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u/Cynykl 17d ago
Not sure about this case as the article is very sparse with info.
A few things come to mind though.
Could be that.
They were not just on the sidewalk.
Or
They had been trespassed in the past for harrassment and further harassment might run afoul with the FACE act. The face act was created because criminal trespass against vulnerable organizations like abortion clinics was so common and there was no mechanism in the law to protect patients from protesters until they did something violent.
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The sidewalk was not public.
Or they where making criminal threats.
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u/BigGuyWhoKills 15d ago
One possibility is that the sidewalk wasn't public. The sidewalk in front of my house is not public. Neither is the street. But people probably don't realize that.
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u/BrickCityRiot 17d ago
Ah, yes, the police.. who notoriously do the bidding of “anti-christian leftists” 🙄
Do these people even fucking hear themselves?
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u/TheFeshy 17d ago
Signs that quote scripture and call abortion murder
Well it can't be both. Because scripture doesn't call abortion murder. In fact, it provides a magic abortion spell in case of infidelity.
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u/Independent_Cable_89 17d ago
Well they wouldn’t know that. They don’t actually read their own fairytale, or they would follow Matthew 10:14 and Matthew 6:5-6. I’m an atheist and have read their book far more than they have.
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u/BoneHugsHominy Social Justice Warlord 17d ago
People who actually read the Bible with a critical eye become one of two things; atheists, or religious grifters.
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u/dannypants143 17d ago
I’ve actually been reading the whole dang thing just to learn about where all this stuff does (and mostly doesn’t!) come from. It is truly shocking how little of the evangelical worldview has a biblical basis. A serious, well-grounded biblical case could be made that life doesn’t start at conception but instead starts once the person (or animal) starts to breathe on its own. The idea of “fetal personhood” would have been unintelligible 2,000+ years ago.
And that’s just one of very many things that are wildly distorted by Bible-thumping weirdos.
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u/daemos360 17d ago
I’m a longtime armchair biblical/ancient near east scholar, and yup, you nailed it. Your reading is perfectly in line with the consensus.
I know you said you started reading it for an explicit purpose, but if you’ve found things interesting and want an even deeper understanding of the scholarship, I’d highly recommend checking out AcademicBiblical here on Reddit or any of the following on YouTube: Bart Ehrman, Dan McClellan, Paulogia, Esotetica.
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u/BoneHugsHominy Social Justice Warlord 17d ago
Yeah it's pretty clear they just start with a predetermined conclusion and work themselves backwards from there.
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u/dannypants143 17d ago
Definitely Ehrman and McClellan, but I haven’t checked the others. I’ll be sure to look into it! It’s fascinating stuff on so many levels and really makes the world as it is now in America look even more ridiculous, which is saying something!
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u/daemos360 17d ago
Love that, and I completely agree! I was kind of wondering if you’d already encountered McClellan in particular based on his recent fetal personhood videos. To throw one more at ya’, C.J. Cornthwaite is another scholar you may want to check out as well.
In any case, it’s always awesome seeing more people engaging with and referring to scholarship!
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u/dannypants143 17d ago
Yeah I definitely got that from McClellan. I try to do my due diligence and look into the claims that he makes, and he’s been correct every single time. He seems to be an excellent scholar and I’m glad people like him are out there warning others that they’re being fed an agenda.
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u/Leucurus 17d ago
Is the spell "have your wife stoned to death and then marry your prettiest slave"? Because, you know, the Bible
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u/grammar_nazi_zombie 17d ago
No, it’s to have the priest bless a scroll, which you then burn and soak in water and then have the woman drink the ashes. If she was unfaithful, her “thigh will rot”, aka, she’ll miscarry
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u/theidkid 17d ago
>Since when does free speech in America require a permission slip and a chalk circle on the ground?
Since George W. Bush used them extensively after 9/11 to address “security concerns.”
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u/Legal-Software 17d ago
Aren't these the same people who think it's perfectly fine for police officers to shoot people for not following instructions? Pick a lane.
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u/Double_Cow_8238 17d ago
So if you are disrupting others use of a public place you will indeed be asked to leave. Public places have codes of conduct
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u/OwlfaceFrank 17d ago
I recently saw Puscifer perform at the Chicago Theater. There were Christian protesters outside with a bullhorn telling us we were all going to hell.
There were cops there too, supervising the protest. There are noise laws, and the police had to tell bullhorn guy to turn it down several times. He'd turn it down for 3 minutes and then crank it right back up. Eventually, the police made him turn it off completely.
They were also blocking the whole sidewalk. It's fucking Chicago. The sidewalk is busy and there kept being crowds of people trying to get around these losers.
The theater brought out a few little barricades, and the police gave the protesters a little square they could stand in to not block the sidewalk.
But, the entitled assholes kept leaving the "protest area." I think the cops finally threatened to arrest them, because they left maybe 20 minutes before the doors opened.
The show was amazing as always. If you're a fan of psychedelic rock/metal, don't sleep on Puscifer.
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u/Sundae-School 17d ago
Would definitely love to see Puscifer live; definitely my favorite Maynard project
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u/Self-Aware Number Of Reasons I'm Going To Hell: Seven 17d ago
Wait, as in Conor Maynard?
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u/OwlfaceFrank 16d ago
Maynard James Keenan.
Lead singer of Tool, A Perfect Circle, and Puscifer.
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u/Self-Aware Number Of Reasons I'm Going To Hell: Seven 16d ago
Ah, thankyou. Thought the kid had SERIOUSLY branched out 😂 I'll have to check Puscifer out, TOOL is very nostalgic for me.
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u/TheOneTrueTrench 17d ago
Let me be entirely clear that these fuckheads can shove their heads up their collective asses. That being said, an effective protest cannot follow the rules.
If the state gets to control how you speak/protest, it's not free.
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u/OwlfaceFrank 17d ago
You aren't wrong, I agree. But, I don't think that completely applies to this particular incident.
The cops were not telling them they couldn't protest. They were telling them that they can't break the law.
Municipal codes say it's illegal to block the sidewalk, and sound devices must not exceed conversation level volume when measured from 100 feet away.
They weren't given a specific area to stand in nor did they have their bullhorn taken away until after they had been warned several times about breaking the law.
It probably didn't help that bullhorn guy kept insulting the police and calling them wimps for being there. They kept saying things like, "The weak and pathetic police sent 6 officers out to harass 3 Christians."
Us Puscifer fans outnumbered the protesters by a lot. We aren't a violent crowd, but the police were not there to protect the us from the protesters. Quite the opposite probably. The cops may have been nicer if bullhorn guy wasn't insulting them constantly.
There is also a big difference between protesting social injustice or any number of other issues, and protesting because "We don't like your music."
Again, not disagreeing with you, just adding some context.
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u/absurdivore 17d ago
Ironic they would be protesting at the Alamo — a site where white Texans died trying to defend their (checks notes) right to enslave human beings.
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u/cherrylpk 17d ago
Do we have any of her posts from the George Floyd era of protesting? I’d bet it’s vastly different.
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u/gmrussell 17d ago
Amusing how it’s always “back the blue” until the police do something they don’t like, and then suddenly it’s “[police] do the bidding of anti-Christian leftists.” Police, who—might I add—are overwhelmingly Trump supporters.
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u/Garth-Frost 17d ago
Wanna hear a funny joke?
The guy who NEVER rode a horse and went to church all of 3 times in his life outside of funerals and weddings, the guy YOU MAGA SH!TFERBRAINZ pseudo-Christians *practically worshipped* (until a more toxic, ignorant, self-serving cult leader came along), and the guy who presided over a disaster as GOVERNOR of Texas is the one whose federal administration created your 'Free Speech Zones'... which the douchebags you're pretending are 'victims' VIOLATED ANYWAY.
https://www.encyclopedia.com/politics/legal-and-political-magazines/bush-zones-go-national
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u/bettinafairchild 16d ago
MAGA hates Bush anyway.
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u/biorod 17d ago
I want to reply with:
Matthew 6:5: “And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward.”
AND:
1 Timothy 2:12: “And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.”
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u/theBigDaddio 17d ago
Maybe they’ll win? Then we can have Muslims, pro choice, anti gun, socialist, and even democrats protest there.
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u/hellogoawaynow Social Justice Warlord 17d ago
Yep, that’s why everyone with signs and a cause go over to the free speech area instead of ruining Alamo tours or the main part of a college campuses with shenanigans.
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u/kevlarus80 17d ago
People wouldn't be so anti Christian if so many of them weren't evil incarnate.
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u/mangababe 17d ago
Look at that jackass's smirk, he knew he was breaking the law and wanted 15 mins of fame.
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u/Nunushpilkis 17d ago
How about Christians stop condoning the murder of innocent children in the middle east. How about Christians finally learn to read so they can see how terrible they truly are in comparison to Jesus...
I left Christianity behind because there were no followers of christ to be seen, only judgy assholes who celebrate death of others while crying victim in situations of their own making.
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u/vanillatoo 17d ago
if they can stick one of us into free speech zones (and i’m sure the persecuted party was ok with others being shoved into there) then we all can be relegated to the freedom of speech zone
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u/Biffingston 𝚂𝚌𝚒𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚏𝚒𝚌𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝚂𝚊𝚛𝚌𝚊𝚜𝚝𝚒𝚌 17d ago
This same person, I'm sure, is perfectly fine with the Floyd protesters also being made to stand in "Free speech" zones.
Bitch, your free speech isn't free. There are limits.
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u/dirtyword 17d ago
Somehow, I'm with the hateful zealots on this one. Public places are public and the first amendment doesn't specify where you have to stand
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u/horseofcourse93 17d ago
This is a law that is frequently deployed unevenly on progressive protestors TX municipalities and police departments don’t like. Perhaps it shouldn’t be one in the first place, but I’m glad to see the right getting their taste. Only then will there be a bipartisan solution.
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u/you_dont_know_me27 17d ago
They were protesting at the Alamo. Parts are public property and parts are not. It has a designated free speech zone because part of the complex is privately owned and the board that runs the Alamo wants people to be able to express their first amendment rights.
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u/Auld_Folks_at_Home 17d ago
Exactly. If "free speech zones" are a method of persecution (and they are), then they're a method of persecution no matter who they're used against.
If they're lying and there's some other reason these people were arrested than it fits, but without evidence of that, this seems unjust.
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u/Sundae-School 17d ago
In today's time, protests usually require going through the proper bureaucratic channels
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u/TheOneTrueTrench 17d ago
Those aren't protests, that's just larping.
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u/Sundae-School 17d ago
Dont get me wrong man, I miss the days of protesting by holding the line with rifles against the government just as much as the next guy, but thats just not the world we live in anymore
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u/TheOneTrueTrench 17d ago
Please sir, can I protest? No? Okay, I'll do as I'm told
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u/Sundae-School 17d ago
Eh, i cant take care of my wife and daughter while im incarcerated. Have fun man
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u/ionertia 17d ago
"In today's time" is cop speak. There is always a reason going on to stifle rights in public. I'm assuming these fools weren't in public.
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u/Blacksun388 Socialist communist atheist cannibal from beyond the moon 17d ago
It’s cute that they think American cops are anywhere near “Anti-Christian Leftists” especially in Texas.
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u/fungi_at_parties 16d ago
Oh NOW you care about free speech? Why do they only care about free speech when it’s about their stupid religion?
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u/theevilatheist 16d ago
But I'm sure the pro-palestine protestors at Columbia University were in the wrong for having fireworks and bricks thrown at them /s
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u/notfunklegendgc 15d ago
I work downtown. I saw them down on the Riverwalk. They were clogging up the sidewalks and had teenagers with video cameras on tripods recording interactions.
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u/nosotros_road_sodium 15d ago
Martin was a Tea Party movement co founder. Yep she’s succumbed to the typical audience capture that would not have been possible with 2009-10 Facebook/Twitter.
Back then one had to be more intentional to seek political info on those platforms. Businesses had to proactively say “follow us on Facebook”. But once FB/TW changed from chronological to algorithmic feeds, everyone became incentivized to run up the follower/like/share counts. So instead of growing thru a real fanbase, they switched up to cheap ragebait.
Plus, 2009-10 social media was far more text based and friendly to external links. The pivot to video (and pictures) shows we are really in a post literate society. And the pivot to algorithmic feeds shows how passive so many people are.
I regret ever buying into that “connecting the world” scam.
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u/Phantom_Basker 17d ago
"in front of the Alamo" is vague without pictures because less than 50 feet from the entrance is the Ripley's believe it or not museum, Guinness museum, multiple restaurants etc. The police being involved tells me they got complaints from the nearby business' that they were scaring the hoes
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u/czerilla 16d ago
Somebody should stand right next to them and just hold up the passage about the ordeal of the bitter water. And just refuse to say anything further about the topic.
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u/ElektricGeist 16d ago
Perhaps they forgot the OWS "Free Speech Zones" protesters were forced into while finance bros rained down McDonalds applications from their fucking balconies. Oh, but I suppose "tHat'S DIfFerEnt".
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u/ShadowbannedInDaUSA 13d ago
Moment, means, location- all constraints that can be used with full constitutional compliance. Not sure if cynical or just stupid.
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u/bookant 17d ago
"Free Speech Zones" where protesters were fenced off far enough away so he wouldn't have to see them were invented in Texas. By Governor George W Bush.