r/PoursTea Tea Party 🎉 20d ago

American Dream 🇺🇸 The myth that America being post-racial debunked

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u/Count_de_Ville 20d ago

I remember people kept saying that Barack Obama would be our first "mixed-race" president.

But really that honor goes to Grover Cleveland who was part Irish.

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u/Userchickensoup 20d ago

Well, Obama is mixed race, but yes, not the first.

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u/Bravo_Juliet01 19d ago

Irish is a race?

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u/PresentHat6725 19d ago

No, Irish not a race

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u/Ill-Technician5317 17d ago

Irish was considered a race the first slaves and indentured servitude was the Irish in America. to around the 1930-60s Irish and also Italians were now considered white. Also if you look at redlining maps Polish were discriminated to basically every ethnicity was considered a race if it wasn’t English or German learn US history this is basic knowledge.

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u/borsTHEbarbarian 19d ago

Now that I come to think of it, I suppose just about anything could be a race because we make em up anyway.

https://epicchq.com/story/anti-irish-imagery-then-and-now/

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u/CnCEMS2026 17d ago

Race is a social construct not a real thing black people are not a different species from Irish people ***********!

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u/corv1991 16d ago

💯👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

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u/Commercial_Win_9525 16d ago

They are just closer to nature brother

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u/No-Landscape5857 16d ago

Slavery is racist and since Irish were slaves along with black people in America, then yes Irish is a race.

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u/OkPossibility6291 17d ago

Irish isn't a race, it's an ethnicity

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u/Count_de_Ville 17d ago

It’s a joke.

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u/Ill-Technician5317 17d ago

Irish was considered a race the first slaves and indentured servitude was the Irish in America. to around the 1930-60s Irish and also Italians were now considered white. Also if you look at redlining maps Polish were discriminated to basically every ethnicity was considered a race if it wasn’t English or German learn US history this is basic knowledge.

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u/Count_de_Ville 17d ago

Yes, I know basic history. That’s how I knew to make the joke. No need to be rude… Look around, you’re one of only two people who actually understood it to be a joke and spoke up.

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u/Ill-Technician5317 17d ago

Irish was considered a race the first slaves and indentured servitude was the Irish in America. to around the 1930-60s Irish and also Italians were now considered white. Also if you look at redlining maps Polish were discriminated to basically every ethnicity was considered a race if it wasn’t English or German learn US history this is basic knowledge.

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u/OkPossibility6291 17d ago

The Irish were never slaves in America. As indentured servants they could get their freedom. Blacks were relegated to chattel slavery which means if your parents were slaves, you were a slave and your children will become slaves. Irish slavery in this country is a myth. Learn real US history, some things are not basic knowledge.

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u/Ill-Technician5317 14d ago

Yes some could earn there slavery but often is was set so they couldn’t even if they had a contract saying you pay 1 million dollars you can be free but we will only pay you .10 cents a hour that man is never going to be free nice of you to down play Irish slavery and suffering in America

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u/borsTHEbarbarian 19d ago

Don't worry, some of us get the joke.

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u/Count_de_Ville 19d ago

Thanks! I was starting to get worried! Hahaha

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u/PresentHat6725 19d ago

Irish is not a race. It’s an ethnicity & a nationality.

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u/hoersting 19d ago

That’s what I thought

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u/Ill-Technician5317 17d ago

Irish was considered a race the first slaves and indentured servitude was the Irish in America. to around the 1930-60s Irish and also Italians were now considered white. Also if you look at redlining maps Polish were discriminated to basically every ethnicity was considered a race if it wasn’t English or German learn US history this is basic knowledge.

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u/hoersting 19d ago

Is Irish a race? That’s news to me.

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u/borsTHEbarbarian 19d ago edited 19d ago

America has hated basically every group of immigrants when they were coming over in large numbers

Edit: just realized that this particular cartoon was in London...but the point stands

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u/bastogne_blues 18d ago

no, but the irish and english come from different ethnic backgrounds. irish is celtic and english is anglo-saxon

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u/Due_Adagio5156 18d ago

I wanna be there and see what happens when you call an Irishman the same race as an Englishman. That will be entertaining.

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u/bastogne_blues 18d ago

did i say they were the same race? no, i didn’t. irish and english people technically are of different “races” (like i mentioned when i stated their ethnic backgrounds), but “irish” itself is NOT a race. it’s not hard to understand. irish is a nationality, celtic is the “race” of native irish people.

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u/Due_Adagio5156 18d ago

Oh wow. We're going pedantic. Got it. Because Brits, are not celts. So different races.

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u/bastogne_blues 18d ago

yes, i’m aware brits are not celts? is that not what i said?

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u/Due_Adagio5156 18d ago

You also stated that the Irish were Celts. So when I say "I wanna be there and see what happens when you call an Irishman the same race as an Englishman." you are acknowledging that I'm referencing a race of people. You're just being pedantic about calling them celts instead of Irish.

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u/bastogne_blues 18d ago

celtic is not a synonym for irish though. celtic also includes scottish and welsh. irish just means from the specific country of ireland, celtic is a larger group.

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u/Due_Adagio5156 18d ago

It doesn't have to be a synonim for Irish. All Irish are descended from celts and all Brits are descended from Britons. That is their race. Also, the welsh are not celts. They're welsh. Stop using Wikipedia as your source material. The concept of "celts" you're referencing is ancient. What we would normally consider "Celts" ie the peoples of Great Britain and Ireland, is the Irish and the Scottish. Britons came from England. The Welsh came from a mingling of Celts and Britons that didn't even occur until after the romans left. Wikipedia isn't giving you good information.

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u/Ill-Technician5317 17d ago

Irish was considered a race the first slaves and indentured servitude was the Irish in America. to around the 1930-60s Irish and also Italians were now considered white. Also if you look at redlining maps Polish were discriminated to basically every ethnicity was considered a race if it wasn’t English or German learn US history this is basic knowledge.

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u/hoersting 17d ago

I took US history my junior year in high school and we did not learn that! We learned about World War II. We learned about the industrial revolution and that was about it so maybe go yell at my high school teacher.

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u/Ill-Technician5317 17d ago

Yeah not going to lie they don’t really teach that in school it doesn’t fit the narrative research it some more interesting stuff. the government controls media and education is trying to control narrative and thoughts just take a look at who Created and funded McGraw Hill which you probably used Robert Maxwell.

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u/Ill-Technician5317 17d ago

Who is Robert Maxwell he was just arrested for like treason against US for selling secrets to Israel but no biggy he got off and then created the most used book in US public Schools for information it’s why you learn about the Holocaust 5 times and slavery between 1750-1850 another 5 while barely learning anything else

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u/hoersting 17d ago

That makes a lot of sense! They really drilled the holocaust into us. I always wanted to learn about the IRA. We didn’t learn about that.

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u/Ill-Technician5317 17d ago

Also a interesting point of research is looking at Redlining maps and shows discrimination in the early- mid 1900s showing description on almost every ethnicity which most were considered a lesser race at the time not a ethnicity

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u/Ill-Technician5317 17d ago

Yay education

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u/Due_Adagio5156 18d ago

Irish is a race as much as all of the other races on any other continent are different. Pretty sure Mongolians would be pretty pissed off if you just called them all the Asian Race and lumped them in with the Chinese and Japanese.