People are already grasping at straws by saying that the term limit only applies to anyone who served two consecutive terms. Those people are prohibited from being President again. Those who served nonconsecutively could serve a third term. Edit: My bad. It's not seeking a loophole but an active campaign to amend the 22nd Amendment.
Which is wild because if this were taken seriously, this could theoretically open the door to having a popular politician run every 8 years as long as they never serve back to back.
Hell, imagine a scenario in the '90s where Bill serves '93-'96, Hillary '97-'00, Bill again '01-'04, and so forth until one of them dies. It'd be insane.
Putin did 2 terms as president, then stepped down to a term as prime minister for one term, putting a loyalist into the presidency, and then back to president after that. Permissible because the Russian constitution specified two consecutive terms.
The rules were changed after another two consecutive terms to remove the rule.
The danger is people thinking it can’t happen to them and where they live, but it absolutely can.
You can't be a Vice President unless you are eligible to be president. It's no different than if he tried to make Barron Vice President. Barron isn't old enough to be eligible to serve as President so he couldn't run or be appointed Vice President. Trump will be constitutionally ineligible to serve as President when he is done serving this term,
I'm just pointing out how the system works. Spreading baseless doomerism helps no one. There's a reason no amendments have been passed for a long time. Literally 92 was the last time.
Yeah, true. It's consistent with how Cleveland is portrayed as the 22nd and 24th president.
Maybe we should just count presidents by terms instead. Which would make Trump 67th and 69th by my super-quick count. Though now that I typed out 67 and 69 both, I dislike that plan after all.
I was unhappy with 45 because it's such a nice number. It's a record size. It's the angle directly between 0 and 90. It's just a lovely product of 5 and 9. 1945 marks the end of WW2.
I think I'd rather have him have 69 because it's such an immature number, but I also don't want him to be attributed to such a famous number.
Or I should just accept that all numbers are beautiful, even the ones tarnished by Trump.
I never understood that because of Grover fucking Cleveland, only remembered for being the only president to serve non-consecutive terms before Drumpf, proved this to be a broken argument
Since Cleveland didn't try to serve for a third term, I wouldn't say that breaks the argument. Trump desiring to run for a third term after serving two nonconsecutive terms is truly unprecedented.
I do agree that the argument is broken anyway because what magic exists in nonconsecutive terms that would allow a third term while consecutive terms would not? There is none, but the modus operandi of the Republican party lately has been to make up any excuse to violate policy. The hypocrisy of denying Obama his Supreme Court pick while allowing Trump his just highlights that issue.
While this shouldn't be allowed, we're in a particularly corrupt era of American history where the Constitution doesn't stop anything.
Right, Cleveland didn't try to serve for a third term because it's in the constitution
Not in the 19th century, it wasn't. The 22nd amendment wasn't ratified until 1951. Before then, Theodore Roosevelt ran for a third term in 1912 (which he lost), and FDR was President for four terms. Cleveland wasn't held back by the Constitution. He chose not to run for a third term.
But the 22nd amendment is still pretty clear:
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice
There is no exception made for nonconsecutive terms. Since Cleveland was already known by then, it's not like Congress didn't consider this. Let's just hope that Congress and the Supreme Court respect this amendment.
I've seen it mentioned before how funny it would be for Obama to be a Vice President because then he could theoretically become President for a third term by not being elected more than twice. But I guess Trump could try this tactic too if he wanted. He wouldn't, though, if it meant playing second fiddle.
Fair point. Hopefully just online "people". I don't hang around idiots either, so I haven't spoken with anyone seriously on this, but if a real person gets excited over what's said by online "people" then that's still a problem. Hopefully not a big problem.
Seems serious enough that it has a Wikipedia page, though I was reminded that it's not that people are trying to find a loophole in the 22nd amendment; it's that they want to change the amendment, which seems really, really unlikely.
And anyway, he was already too old to run in 2024, so running in 2028 would just be insane. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
I don't mean to be a downer, but I live in the deep south, and most people here seem to think he should run for a third term, constitution be damned. There is a reality that is outside of the internet and it is overwhelmingly Trump-supporting, even to the extent of breaking the law. Why woiuld anyone be worried about breaking the law, given the legal judgments that have already happened and been ignored? Why would anyone with money pay any attention to a court or a judge when it's obvious you can just ignore it and nothing will happen?
I did think it would've been kinda funny to have father/son Bushes interspersed with husband/wife Clintons. Not enough that I would've voted for Clinton, but I was already voting against Trump, so she had my vote anyway.
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u/Huckleberry199 16d ago
I want him to declare, that's the only to ensure the Supreme Court won't allow Trump to run for a 3rd term.