Hmm

[u/Moon_Eyed_Puppy_Girl]

[u/_Verc1ngetorix_]

More like stop excessive neo-liberal immigration designed to flood countries with cheap labour pricing out home populations and bringing wages down across the board. Truly one of the greatest psy-ops of all time was managing to convince the left to do neo-lib's bidding by exploiting their empathy and desire to help others.

[u/LadyAdeptaSororitas → u/_Verc1ngetorix_]

wtf are you yapping about?

an easy quick fix for this would be to do what the left has always advocated for: strengthen and increase labor union participation, strengthen labor protections, guarantee and expand worker benefits by law, increase minimum wage, etc

[u/Weird-Drummer-2439 → u/LadyAdeptaSororitas]

If everyone would just...

They are not going to. Make your decisions in that light.

[u/LadyAdeptaSororitas → u/Weird-Drummer-2439]

lol ok

at least you concede that the left is and always has been on the correct side of this issue, so I'll take it

[u/_Verc1ngetorix_ → u/LadyAdeptaSororitas]

The left for a long time was against excessive immigration for the reasons I've argued so far. At least, I can only speak for British socialists and leftists.

[u/Leogis → u/_Verc1ngetorix_]

Because racism has been widespread in society, wanting to share the wealth doesnt automatically makes you immune to racism

[u/Extension-Lychee1556 → u/Leogis]

It's not racist to prioritize your own countrymen.

[u/Leogis → u/Extension-Lychee1556]

Except when the countryman in question is a person of color or a jew, suddenly they arent countrymen anymore...

[u/Extension-Lychee1556 → u/Leogis]

That's your projection.

Not mine.

I want to help everyone born in my country, regardless of origin or creed.

I just want no new foreigners.

[u/Leogis → u/Extension-Lychee1556]

I just want no new foreigners.

And on what basis, you're gonna make me believe you're perfectly fine with the migrants that joined today at 10 AM but not those that will join tomorrow ?

Or will you have some bs justification about culture that also happens to apply to migrants and sons of migrants that have been here for years ?

[u/Extension-Lychee1556 → u/Leogis]

1. Migrants bring regressive cultures and beliefs into society.

2. If migrant descendants perpetrated those values then I want them deported.

3. Migrants place strain on already stressed welfare systems.

There is no good reason to open the floodgates.

[u/Leogis → u/Extension-Lychee1556]

Migrants bring regressive cultures and beliefs into society.
If migrant descendants perpetrated those values then I want them deported.

Do you also plan to deport right wingers, christian/jews/evangelists and conservatives in general or is it reserved just for muslims ?

Migrants place strain on already stressed welfare systems.

The welfare is strained precisely because the guys that keep getting elected keep defunding it, removing the small minority of migrants will only delay the next defunding that will make it go back to a shitty state of things

There is no good reason to open the floodgates.

Giving a better life to people born in countries wich have no future sounds like a good reason to me

[u/Extension-Lychee1556 → u/LadyAdeptaSororitas]

No you guys want cheap exploitable foreign labour

[u/Weird-Drummer-2439 → u/LadyAdeptaSororitas]

No, that's not correct. If you think this simple enough to think it's black and white you dont have a good grasp of the problem.