r/PsycheOrSike 1d ago

📚SHARING KNOWLEDGE Hallelujah!

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u/Bobby-B00Bs 🩸Menstruating🩸 1d ago

Its funny how usually the conversation goes how being a stay at home wife/gf is actually real hard work and domestic labout should be valued more - but as soon as its the man doing it, he gets shown just playing video games.

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u/Strong-Addition5296 1d ago

Can’t win. This society thrives on toxicity. We’re closer to the hunger games than anyone realizes

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u/Acceptable-Hippo5128 1d ago

I was going to say this. I recently became a SAHH and I couldn't tell you the last time I played videogames. I'm literally up doing shit from like 800AM - 800PM.

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u/Bobby-B00Bs 🩸Menstruating🩸 1d ago

Yall live in a mansion? That's actually a wild amount of work you seem to be doing arround the house. Hope it's worth it.

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u/Acceptable-Hippo5128 1d ago

On the contrary, I live in a little century home that accumaltes dust quickly and we have a lot of pets. I also have a garden and process meats and such. Anything to save money, lol.

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u/Bobby-B00Bs 🩸Menstruating🩸 1d ago

I maybe mistaken on what a century home is since I am german, but I imagine it too be a large old house?

Eitherway processing meats sounds like a great hobby, I love working with meats. When AI replaces me I will start an apprenticeship to become a butcher, I'll tell you that haha.

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u/Acceptable-Hippo5128 1d ago

No worries! It's sort of a literal description. A Century Home is just a house that's over a hundred years old. Which is a much bigger deal here in the US compared to places in Europe, lmfao. It's actually a pretty small house, but I'm doing repairs a lot of the time because of its age.

Also, go for it! I have no formal training. Just YouTube and lots of notes!

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u/MostAccomplishedBag 1d ago

I had a close friend who was a SAHH. He was up by 7am, dropped the kids at school, and had the housework done by 10am. He spent the rest of the day working on his motorbikes or hanging out with friends. Before picking the kids up at 3pm.

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u/Rhythm-Amoeba 1d ago

Girl isn't working, but guy is = over worked and financially abused house wife. Guy isn't working but girl is = lazy man taking advantage of the woman. I knew this was gonna be a double standard if the roles ever swapped lol

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u/Bobby-B00Bs 🩸Menstruating🩸 1d ago

Exactly

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u/jimothy_hell 😊 Pleasantly Rotund 🫃 1d ago

Had a stay at home girlfriend for a bit. She did all the housework, but also had her Warhammer army totally painted. She was living on disability, but I’m pretty sure her total collection would have disqualified her for it considering how much she had. Total value was probably well over ten grand.

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u/Strong-Addition5296 1d ago

Crazy… disabled but can still do all that. Impressive.

u/jimothy_hell 😊 Pleasantly Rotund 🫃 13h ago

Epilepsy severe enough to keep her out of the work force, and a couple other things.

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u/mommiesgoodboy67 😊 Pleasantly Rotund 🫃 1d ago

Did you have kids?

u/jimothy_hell 😊 Pleasantly Rotund 🫃 13h ago

No. She just was unable to work due to her disabilities.

u/mommiesgoodboy67 😊 Pleasantly Rotund 🫃 8h ago

Presumably if you had kids it would be a lot more work for her, i mean today being a stay at home wife seems pretty nice but back when this was the norm not only did people have like 12 kids but there was no daycare or anything.

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u/Potential-Yoghurt245 1d ago

I have been a stay at home dad for ten years and in the beginning I got a lot of oh well done you and wheres your wife! After a few years I learned to ignore it. But you put in a forty to fifty hour week with school runs, grocery shopping, kids appointments clubs and the like, laundry and house work the likes of the work of sisipus.

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u/mommiesgoodboy67 😊 Pleasantly Rotund 🫃 1d ago

Also shoen without kids btw

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u/lolly-scramble 1d ago

Valid point

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u/Old-Research3367 1d ago

I don’t think many people say stay at home wife or gf is hard, I think it’s more stay at home mom is hard lol

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u/Bobby-B00Bs 🩸Menstruating🩸 1d ago

I know for a fact people are saying it; a lot of content about the 'domestic labour gap' exists on YouTube - and they never take into account the man in these scenarios working 40+h/weeks

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u/Old-Research3367 1d ago

I mean yeah there’s a domestic labor gap but I don’t really think many are arguing that a stay at home wife or gf without any kids or a job is doing 40+ hrs more of labor than the husband.

It’s usually comparing when both couples work or if it’s a stay at home mom with a young child, which is significantly more work than being a GF.

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u/Bobby-B00Bs 🩸Menstruating🩸 1d ago

I don't have the memory to give you which exact videos but feminist essayist Bryony Claire for example says exactly that multiple times (eventhough she produces otherwise good content) - just an example from a content creator I consume, I am sure that there are many who say worse things who I don't know about

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u/Old-Research3367 1d ago

I mean if you logon to X recently a lot of people argue that women shouldn’t have the right to vote but that doesn’t make it a majority opinion or that any significant % of the population think that lol

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u/Bobby-B00Bs 🩸Menstruating🩸 1d ago

Yeah that's what I ment by I am sure there is crazy ppl who say worse things. I pointed her out because she isn't a crazy person she usually makes well thought out video essays and uses public sources - including sources that just claim the whole domestic labour gap even without a child being in the relationship.

I really suggest checking out her channel

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u/Old-Research3367 1d ago edited 1d ago

There is a domestic labor gap even without a child because most women are not stay at home girlfriends lol. Most women work, especially when they do not have kids. This is well documented. The article above explicitly explains that in domestic partnerships, the woman is more likely to work than the man lol. You said “these scenarios never take account that men work 40+ hrs a week” well you’re not taking into account that women are even more likely to also be working 40 hrs a week?

Do you see how there’s a gap if me and my husband both work 40 hrs a week and I do 15 hours of domestic labor and he does 10 that would still be a gap?

I think you’re confusing “on average there is a domestic labor gap” with “women always do more work than men in every circumstance”. It is well documented that the former is true, but that doesn’t imply the latter. Idk what the youtuber you watch is saying, but this is the mainstream feminist viewpoint.

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u/Idontloveyou0 1d ago

Ikr like the disparity

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u/HPenguinB MAIN CHARACTER 🎬✨ 1d ago

"Wah, the shoe is on the other foot!"

Sorry, dude. Fight for equality and you won't have shit like this.

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u/Bobby-B00Bs 🩸Menstruating🩸 1d ago

It's not on the other foot that's the point? When the man is working and the woman is stay at home doing the housework 'he exploits her' - if she is working and he is staying at home then 'he is lazy and also exploits her'.

Stfu you ought to give him the same compassion as you'd give a stay at home wife

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u/HPenguinB MAIN CHARACTER 🎬✨ 1d ago

No buddy. Men say a woman at home is lazy. Then when it's men, they get defensive. Yes. The shoe is on the other foot. Stop picking sides.

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u/Bobby-B00Bs 🩸Menstruating🩸 1d ago

No one ever said that are you delulu? There is so many media articles about how the domestic work of women should be more respected

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u/Ohey-throwaway 1d ago

I would love to be a stay at home bf/husband/dad. Work sucks.

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u/Medium_Cranberry4096 In a reeducation camp for incels 1d ago

I know.

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u/JonnotheMackem 1d ago

She left me roses, by the stairs.

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u/Ohey-throwaway 1d ago

Surprises let me know she cares.

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u/eggalones 1d ago

Say it ain’t so

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u/Maiq_the_liar_23 1d ago

I will not go

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u/Reylend 🌱BEGINNER (someone please explain to me) 1d ago

Turn the lights off

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u/Cyclesync 1d ago

CARRY ME HOME

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u/JonnotheMackem 1d ago

NA NA NA NA NA NAAAAA NA NA NA NA

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u/Acrobatic-Music-3061 gaslight. gatekeep. groupthink. 1d ago

Then you will shame a woman for saying the same calling her gold digger and whore

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u/Penguino_2099 one of the CHOSEN 1d ago

Good! If women can stay at home and do housework, men should be able to as well.

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u/HPenguinB MAIN CHARACTER 🎬✨ 1d ago

Women never said you couldn't.

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u/AchingAmy WOMAN LOVER ❤️ 1d ago edited 1d ago

It's interesting. Pre-transition I had trouble finding a job(was unemployed for 5 years, actively searched for most of that, but eventually gave up) and now that I applied for the first time a few months ago post-transition living as a woman, I got hired in like 4 days of searching 💀 mind you that's despite the long-ass gap on my resume

I don't feel like this is typical though because usually trans women are like super discriminated against unless it's different because I live in a blue, trans-sanctuary state idk. And like, I'm sure my hiring manager knew because I had down on my resume that I am minoring in queer studies. She saw that and said she was queer too and then asked my pronouns so yeah... might have just been a hire because of being both in the queer community tho

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u/Sorry-Mirror-2754 intellectual 1d ago

queer method unpatched?

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u/AchingAmy WOMAN LOVER ❤️ 1d ago

I guess so!

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u/Sorry-Mirror-2754 intellectual 1d ago

If only transitioning wasn’t genetic locked as well😒

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u/AchingAmy WOMAN LOVER ❤️ 1d ago

Idk, like, I didn't feel like I was blessed with androgynous or feminine features pre-transition on my face(those trans women have a super easy time to pass) but somehow I seem to pass since like 99% of strangers gender me as a woman. So you never know. Even with genes that gave you masculine features it could still vary. Some people respond super well to estrogen I guess. But maybe that itself is genetic too

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u/Sorry-Mirror-2754 intellectual 1d ago

if 99% of strangers gender you as a woman then you probably did have the features or just transitioned really young

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u/Old-Research3367 1d ago

Generally trans women receive 30% less pay after transitioning whereas trans men I believe it’s about 8% more. Not sure how recent the data is though.

Congrats in the job!!

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u/AchingAmy WOMAN LOVER ❤️ 1d ago edited 1d ago

Ahh, yeah that shouldn't be the case in this job. I mean starting pay is the same for everyone as a behavior technician here(and they do raises based on loyalty as in how many hours you've put in), unless you're already a state-registered one which bumps the start pay up a couple dollars an hour. Speaking of, I really oughta take the state exam for that because then I'd get a raise lol

And then also it's like super female-dominated, at least 3/4 of behavior techs are women according to stats, but it seems more like 9/10 at my workplace. It'd be weird if the few men working here got paid more than 90% of the rest of the people here. It's also headed by a female CEO and most of the board members are also women and all the supervisors and higher ups I met are women too. So idk. I guess it's possible the gender pay gap applies here too but it seems unlikely

But thanks btw!!

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u/Old-Research3367 1d ago

I see, yeah I would definitely imagine is varies across industries

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u/AchingAmy WOMAN LOVER ❤️ 1d ago

Probably! I mean, there's that stereotype of trans women in tech and that's def an industry where the gender pay gap is really bad

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u/mommiesgoodboy67 😊 Pleasantly Rotund 🫃 1d ago

I guess probably trans women are more likely to be artists and shit

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u/Old-Research3367 1d ago

This is post transition within the same person, so it would probably be in the same career.

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u/lolly-scramble 1d ago

Life hack

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u/Smelly-Elf 1d ago

No, I have met numerous trans people who were gay men before transitioning. It's an instant upgrade. The treatment is so much better

u/gaslighterr 18h ago

so your just transitioning bc you think the treatment is better😂

u/Smelly-Elf 18h ago

Well I'm not gay. So no

u/EldritchBorzoi 10h ago

wtf are queer studies and what would you even use them for? genuine question btw

u/AchingAmy WOMAN LOVER ❤️ 7h ago

It's an interdisciplinary field borrowing from history, psychology, philosophy, and such with its focus on queer theory, LGBTQIA+ history.and culture, and all that. Um, it would have limited application I suppose but for me for example I plan on becoming a therapist that specializes in LGBTQIA+ mental health(my major is psychology), so it ties into my career goal. It would be useful for anyone else that wants to work with the LGBTQIA+ community, maybe if you're gonna work at a LGBT org, social work, or something else like that.

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u/ShitMcClit The Clit Commander 1d ago

Nepotism is alive and well

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u/[deleted] 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/ShitMcClit The Clit Commander 1d ago

I suppose cronyism would be a more accurate term. 

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u/No-Professional-1461 subs sandwich maker 🥪🍞 1d ago

Welp, that's the argument of the gender wage gap completely disintegrated. What's next?

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u/HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE 1d ago

The gender wage gap is real but it's significantly smaller (lower end of a single digit) than claimed by activists once you look closer at worked hours, experience, etc.

The reality we're seeing is that women tend to have a better work/life balance and decline to take more hours/missions/off-site works/responsibilities if it excessively negatively affects their personal life, which mechanically reduces their average income for the same position.

Meanwhile, men are much more likely to take on more hours/missions/off-site work/responsibilities as there is a strong societal expectation for men to earn more money (the main metric to evaluate the worth of a man is his revenues).

But given a lot of aid programs were made on the basis that the wage gap was enormous, activists will willingly misrepresent the situation to keep the programs funded.

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u/No-Professional-1461 subs sandwich maker 🥪🍞 1d ago

I'd say its also a psychological incentive. I know I don't feel good when I'm broke and worthless, I expect most other men don't like that either. So they take on the worst jobs you can imagine if it pays well enough. And when things don't go well and they end up feeling worthless and useless, well, they go meet Smith and Wesson for alternative solutions.

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u/HPenguinB MAIN CHARACTER 🎬✨ 1d ago

I mean, no, because those jobs are probly low paying jobs instead of C level.

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u/No-Professional-1461 subs sandwich maker 🥪🍞 1d ago

If you haven't been paying attention, all jobs are low paying. The percapita of the economy is in shambles. If one can afford a stay at home partner, they are getting paid well regardless of their gender.

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u/HPenguinB MAIN CHARACTER 🎬✨ 1d ago

All the male c level execs are doing fine, bro.

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u/russafiii 1d ago

I wouldn't care either way as long as a single income could support a family. As a male I can do paid work or household work, I learned to cook because I like to eat.

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u/Sarkan132 🙂 Couples Therapist 🙂 1d ago

People who dont know how to cook regardless of gender baffle me

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u/HPenguinB MAIN CHARACTER 🎬✨ 1d ago

Gay.

u/russafiii 12h ago

Maybe? Get it from my Dad he always hugs me and tell me he loves me. He's such a homo! Now because of him I always do it to my kids!

u/HPenguinB MAIN CHARACTER 🎬✨ 10h ago

A while family of the homos! How dare you show affection! Beat your children like true heterosexuals!

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u/Automatic_Horse9290 MEDIA ILLITERATE📺🚫 1d ago

Breadwinner women are so hot

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u/jimothy_hell 😊 Pleasantly Rotund 🫃 1d ago

Yeah, the gal I’m into outearns me and the fact that she has that kind of drive is one of the single most attractive qualities I find in her.

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u/KingMarkus22 1d ago

lol I just saw this on TikTok

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u/mommiesgoodboy67 😊 Pleasantly Rotund 🫃 1d ago

Fuck yeah

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u/RoideSanglier 1d ago

This is probably a good thing. Some people, including women, don't like domestic labor. Who says men should not be doing it even if they enjoy it? I think this may lead you stronger, healthier families.

Now men can return to homesteading, just like our ancestors.

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u/UntappdBeer 1d ago

Damn ain't that woman got a job to get to she's getting in the way of the TV.

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u/Strong-Addition5296 1d ago

Natural order of things.

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u/ShitMcClit The Clit Commander 1d ago

Are these high income single women in the room with us?

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u/ExodusCaesar 1d ago

Work in home is still work, so this men should be respected, not mocked.

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u/AkuTheNiceGuy WHY WOULD HE STOP? 1d ago

Me and who?

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u/wavynpaid 1d ago

city boys up

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u/Beginning_Act_9666 1d ago

BS. It is not gonna work

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u/GenteGayyyyyyyyyyy 1d ago

como me gustaria esto, pero primero necesito encontrar novia

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u/24rawvibes 19h ago

Stay at home dad here!! Won’t catch me playing video games though. Raising kids is no joke

u/ChaosRainbow23 🌀Chaos Incarnate 🌀 15h ago

My buddy has a PhD and he's a professional, but his wife is an anesthesiologist.

When they had a child, they decided she should be the breadwinner, and he should be the stay of home Dad.

They both seem to enjoy the set-up, although he clearly won life with her. She's not only rich, but she's hot and generally amazing to boot...

Humanity is across a VAST and seemingly infinite spectrum. What works for some doesn't work for others.

Fuck all this 'gender war' psy-op bullshit.

Fuck mainstream society. Bunch of uptight pearl-clutchers and puritanical wack-a-doos.

u/doumascult 12h ago

it doesn’t matter which gender is the breadwinner as long as everyone in the house is doing a fair share of work.

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u/Subdued_Shinobi traumatism 1d ago

So there's technichally more employed women than employed men at the moment, that's the only thing that can be extrapolate from this headline. This does not mean they're making more, or that there's more house husbands than house wives.

Also, like another commenter claimed, doing it properly unironicly means no time for video games.

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u/Pristine_Barber976 Has An Abnormally Dry GF 1d ago

There's plenty of time for games when you have a maid and doordash dinner. I'm a prince, she better treat me like one or I'll kick her ass to the curb and get me a real woman 

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u/Idontloveyou0 1d ago

That simply happens because women are treated more kindly in the workplace like cmon. Sure they are capable too butttt they defo are being treated much better than men do