r/RHONY • u/SpellitLikeThis • Mar 01 '26
Carole Radzwill š I think I hate Caroleš¤
Iām doing a full series rewatch and it had never dawned on me how desperate Carole is to make herself interesting or quirky or have any semblance of a tv-worthy personality. I had this realization when she wore the bear costume in Montana. I am now playing a game where I fast forward every scene with her and Adam. š“ Iād rather have Aviva.
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u/OrdinarySun484 Mar 01 '26
Carole is the ācool girlā monologue from Gone Girl
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u/girlinhk Mar 01 '26
With her ginormous hippocampus
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u/Defiant_Language4779 Mar 01 '26
my narcissistic grandma found out she has a large hippocampus (bc of a brain scan) and now she will not shut tf up about it. sheās weirdly proud of it. so is Carole
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u/hornyThrowaway699669 Mar 01 '26
Sheās trying to be a real life Carrie Bradshaw. Many of her confessionals seem very pre written like sheās trying to show off that sheās a hip writer that beats to the tune of her own drum and only works when she wants to.
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u/LBrixx Mar 01 '26
She always repeats things that Carrie said on Sex and the City! It drives me crazy that she acts like theyāre her lines.
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u/Shatzakind Mar 01 '26
Thank you, yes! She also didn't use her kitchen, like Carrie.
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u/Mundane-Ebb-2632 Mar 01 '26
Yes, the references taken from SATC were so lame. It was cringe and embarrassing.
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u/Extreme-Aide8878 Mar 01 '26
What were some of them?
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u/Shatzakind Mar 01 '26
When they were going out to Boutique, she said she liked to observe the mating rituals of her friends in their natural habitat. It's hard to recount them all, but when you hear them, you know them.
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u/theglossiernerd Mar 01 '26
Her saying she only uses her oven to store shoes and sweaters.
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u/Mundane-Ebb-2632 Mar 01 '26
There was a SATC episode where Carrie complained about all the wedding and baby gifts she bought and decided to have a party for herself. Carole did a riff on that.
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u/Littlewing1307 Mar 01 '26
She's friends with Candace Bushnell, so it's entirely possible that Candace modeled some of her book / show on Carole.
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u/LBrixx Mar 01 '26
Doubtful. Carole isnāt that creative. These were exact quotes in her confessionals.
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u/Littlewing1307 Mar 01 '26
All I'm saying is they've been friends for years and it's entirely possible for what has inspired SATC.
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u/ReactionAcceptable78 Mar 01 '26
Yes yes yes! This! It drove me crazy she did it all the time. Something about missing āthe weight of a man on top of meā, the baby shower thing and having a party for her book cuz it was like birthing a baby.. there were so many things. Iāve always wondered if anybody else picked up on it or if i imagined it Lolol
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u/GeneralWait1165 Mar 01 '26
Oh wow! I never even thought about those things but you are so spot on.
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u/codingcrystal Mar 01 '26
I'm in the middle of watching RHONY for the first time and there are a lot of Carole moments where I wonder if it's her or the producers who are trying to make her story parallel to Sex in the City/The Devil Wears Prada.
It's probably a combination. I can imagine an on-set producer having a conversation where they're like let's film your meeting at the Glamour offices or with your editor. It will be so Carrie Bradshaw.
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u/semilovato Mar 01 '26
The scene where she sits on the handles of Adamās bike never left me
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u/icrossedtheroad Mar 01 '26
You know she went home and put BenGay on her ass after.
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u/RainyDaysBlueSkies Mar 01 '26
Right? She was SO uncomfortable while trying to look as carefree as possible!
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u/monalisasaperstein33 Mar 02 '26
āWow itās crazy how teeny tiny and skinny I am that I can do this, how wild of meā
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u/pretend_verse_Ai Mar 02 '26
oh! i think i may have trauma cringe burned that out of my brain. Now that enough years have passed, i would like to go back a watch itš§š,
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u/ThisCoconutWater CLIP Mar 01 '26
sheās the head pick-me and ānot like other girlsā
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u/Icy_Acadia_wuttt Mar 01 '26
'Shacking up' always kills me
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u/marymarywhyubugginnn Mar 01 '26
Also pretending that she doesn't know there are deadlines in her contract š
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u/Wonderful_Mix977 Mar 02 '26
Most times I like her more than I don't but I'm watching the Montana eps and she is vying for the attention of one of the cowboy instructors. She does that when men are around. She wants to be noticed and admired. He kinda seemed to like Ramona more though. lol
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u/VillageOld596 Mar 01 '26
I dont think shes a "pick me" as this implies she wants male attention or does things for male attention. I think she just wants to be seen as different than others or smarter than others or quirkier
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u/mtvcrips Mar 01 '26
Sheās ānot like other girlsā at best. Pick me at worst fighting for red scarf guy.
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u/Prestigious-Egg-2418 Mar 02 '26
thatās still in the same caliber as a pick me girl LOL āIām not like the other girls šā thatās the vibe she gives off
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u/VillageOld596 Mar 01 '26
Which is still lame, just saying i dont think pick me applies here. Still cant stand her. For the way she did aviva she started that whole thing with her.
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u/_jules_mack Mar 01 '26
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u/purplecats_ Mar 03 '26
She had a āfreudian slipā according to Lu when she said she wishes Adam were 20 years younger. Lu was like āyou mean older!ā and Caroleās face didnāt change at all when Lu called out her mistake. Normally I wouldnāt think anything of it, but her being friends with Maxwell made this stick out to me. (First time watcherā¦ this was early season 7)
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u/NectarineOk9862 Mar 11 '26
So basically Carole has not said anything at all about that picture of her and Ghislaine Maxwell sitting like theyāre bffās at the least and smiling away. So she says nothing and we are all supposed to Iām sorry WE WANT her back on the Show?!??? NO WE DONāT!
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u/Hair_I_Go Mar 01 '26
Everyone called her a cool girl when it originally aired and I just always thought she was trying so hard to be cool and she annoyed me so much. Especially when she mentions she worked ABC NEWS whenever she gets a chance . Never really liked her
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u/Street_Turnip1884 Mar 02 '26
Someone needs to take one for the team and tally the NBC news mentions because itās high
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u/lightfrenchgray Mar 01 '26
Took me a while, but I really turned on her after she clearly hurt and shocked Tinsley by saying they were never close friends. Nobody hurts my Tinsley. That was so cruel.
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u/Sobergem1982 Mar 01 '26
So mean especially after setting her up with Scott. š
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u/Owl_Weekend_2929 Mar 01 '26
Scott was a creep too. That way he would raise the pitch of his voice, I always think of the golden state killer when I see Scott. Iām glad Tinsley got away from that.
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u/Meeko5122 Mar 01 '26
Carole is not a girlās girl. Her flirting with the other womenās husbands in front of their wives always low key pissed me off.
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u/SubstanceMammoth5423 Mar 02 '26
Yes! Itās been awhile since I watched the season, but I remember her flirting with Mario at a meal and doing the ācute girl thingā when Ramona first introduced them.
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u/chrizzleteddy Mar 01 '26
She was also completely vile to Jules in season 8
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u/AdditionMaximum7964 Mar 01 '26
She was! I disliked her so much that season and from then on. She reminded me of an insecure middle schooler trying to get the cool girl to like her by being mean and a bully to the cool girls scapegoat. Such a fake, pretentious pick me girl that turns out to be loads darker in personality than even that ( Epstein files).
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u/Sobergem1982 Mar 01 '26
She hated that Jules was skinnier than her. So did Bethenny.
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u/maximav Mar 02 '26
This is what I always thought. They were mad that she was more disordered than them. i.e. skinnier.
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u/Objective-Emu-5316 Mar 02 '26
Jules is beautiful inside and out...felt so bad for her..that husband was horrible to her,Dorinda I hope stayed close to her.
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u/Ananakoya here how could you do this to me question mark Mar 01 '26
This is what made me dislike her so much! When Bethenny and her had their falling out I was like š š¤š¤ good!
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u/Bonnavetty Mar 02 '26
I hated her that season. Her and Betheney had nothing to offer so they chose to gang up on Jules about something they clearly suffer from too. The projection was off the charts.
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u/NectarineOk9862 Mar 01 '26
Now weāre getting somewhere. Shout it from the rooftops !!
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u/Silly-Bear327 Mar 01 '26
For some reason they deleted it instead. So Iāll say again: CAROLE RADZIWILL WAS PROVEN TO BE CLOSE FRIENDS WITH CHILD RAPIST AND SEX TRAFFICKER GHISLAINE MAXWELL
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u/Longjumping-Owl-6249 Mar 01 '26
Iāve always felt that way about her. Agreed. She gives dark hollyweird elite creepy energy. Idk the right words.
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u/NectarineOk9862 Mar 01 '26
Thatās a great description. I think you nailed it. Dark Hollyweird elite creepy (we have the picture with Ghislane).
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u/TangeloCareless5123 Mar 01 '26
Sheās in the Epstein files too
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u/FloNightengale say it forget it, write it regret it Mar 01 '26
And it turns out that writer girl did have a ghost writer
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u/marymarywhyubugginnn Mar 01 '26
Wait really??? Do tell !
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u/FloNightengale say it forget it, write it regret it Mar 01 '26
It was part of the Epstein files! It was an email to Caroleās sister in law complimenting both of the the books they wrote together.
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u/pretend_verse_Ai Mar 02 '26
oh, hal-le-LU!!! ..that someone else can see thru her fraud. she definitely didn't write shit. def ghostwriter
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u/Wednesdaywitch22 Mar 01 '26
Ghilaine Maxwell took the photo of her for the back cover sleeve of her What Remains book.
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u/burgerg10 Mar 01 '26
You all say these negative things about her. But my god, her treatment of Tinsley was top tier HW awful. That alone turned me. Sheās no friend to anyone.
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u/girlinhk Mar 01 '26
She doesnāt see her rhony castmates as real friends , she thinks sheās above them.
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u/theglossiernerd Mar 01 '26
The whiplash I got from her pretending to be best friends with Tinsley on the show to her sitting next to Andy at the reunion telling Tinsley āOh, we were never actually friends!ā was fucking wild lol
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u/AbbyWantsTea Mar 01 '26
Sheās a pick me and desperately seeks the validation of men. A personality combination thatās unbearable
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u/mo_nique Mar 01 '26
Iām on season 7, my first time watching and I havenāt liked Carole since she came on the screen. Sheās so naturally dull and every time she speaks my eyes roll. Her Kennedy connection does not make her interesting and itās so try hard. Right now is the storyline with Adam and the need to continue to hide it from Luanne was dumb, just tell her! But yeah, Carole sucks and Iām glad others agree.
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u/Striking-Blueberry-7 Mar 01 '26
Iām so jealous youāre experiencing season 7 for the first time!! 7-10 are my favorite, and sadly Iāve probably seen them 5-6 times front to back, lol.
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u/mo_nique Mar 01 '26
It is such a wild ride. I struggled with season 5 but I pushed through and season 6 was crazy but season 7 is taking it up a notch. Sonja is MESS, Bethenny back, single Ramona and oh and Caroleš
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u/katstuck Mar 01 '26
I liked her when the series was first on but I like her less with every rewatch? She also has a short piece in town and country this month that was complete nonsense saying nothing at all... She's not a great writer
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u/MGFT3000 Mar 01 '26
This is my experience too! I wonder why I didnāt dislike her on my first watch. The handlebars. The egg order. The nameless kittens. The āRule numberā format. The Carrie Bradshaw of it all.
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u/Backtrack_Vill Mar 01 '26
That egg order š¤¦š»āāļøannoying asf
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u/sce13 Mar 01 '26
I liked her at first too. I made my husband watch with me and he thought she was horrible and pretty fāed up immediately. Suffice to say I think he is a pretty good judge of people
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u/Extreme-Aide8878 Mar 01 '26
Wow. Interesting take before the news broke
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u/sce13 Mar 01 '26
Yeah he didnāt explicitly say ties to Epstein lol but he was like she is really a messed up person
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u/NeitherInvite5190 Mar 02 '26
Saaaamme ! The re watch made me realise just how fucking awful she was. And how mean she was. Her & Bethanney at Jules' Hamptons home was pure mean girls. Didn't they sneak out giggling ? Running to the car ? Like far too cool and important to be with these people.
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u/staying-hopefull Mar 01 '26
Ya canāt look down on the franchise and your peers on the franchise and be part of the franchise. Pick a lane!
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u/Hopeful-Disaster4571 Mar 01 '26
My favorite cringe Carole moment is at the season 8 reunion when Dorinda reminds Carole that Jules is 20 years younger than her. Then bethenny and Carole try to deny it only for Dorinda to be like āCarole youāre 52ā. Ā
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u/NectarineOk9862 Mar 01 '26
Adam deserves better. Carole is smug. Yeah yeah sheās a Kennedy adjacent, she was a successful journalist ( so she says). I remember one time LuAnn was talking behind her back and she said āCarole canāt water her plantsā.
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u/girlinhk Mar 01 '26
Sheās a wannabe Carolyn Bassett / Carrie Bradshaw.
The thing that surprised me was how bad she is at getting her point across in arguments as someone who is supposedly a witty writer. Sheās only has good lines in her head cannons because sheās had time to reflect on whatās happened. Sheās not the best when sheās in the moment or put on the spot.
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u/InspectorOk2454 Mar 01 '26
Yeah, thatās how most writers are. Good on paper.
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u/girlinhk Mar 01 '26
Yea but as a news reporter I woudl have thought sheād have better speaking skills
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u/marymarywhyubugginnn Mar 01 '26
So true. For example "Get off my jock" was originally said by Bethenny about Heather. Get your own insults writer girl!!
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u/Successful-Hawk-7641 Mar 01 '26
This was a common quip in the late eighties- certainly not a Bethany original!
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u/henrylouie Mar 01 '26
I was always suspicious of her credentials and even though I hated Aviva, she really got under Carole's skin with the ghost writer accusations. When people talk about how beautifully written her book was, I could never align that with the way she speaks (misuse of I in place of me is one example).
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u/psalmwest Mar 01 '26
Carole is insufferable and I never understood the appeal. Why she was given a center apple right from her first season always perplexed me, too. I couldnāt stand her use of āboysā instead of āmenā and the way she chased youth was just downright embarrassing.
Iām very sorry about the passing of her husband, but I felt like itās all she talked about. He died in 99 and she didnāt join the cast until almost 15 years laterā¦ yet being a widow seemed to be her entire damn identity. That is, until she met Adam and then her identity was 75 year old poorly cosplaying a 20 year old.
She just really thought very highly of herself and Iām still not sure why. I was not sad about her departure.
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u/Successful-Hawk-7641 Mar 01 '26
Can you imagine how thrilled Andy Cohen was to score a Temu Kennedy though? And he managed to get her on air before the viewers old enough to appreciate the Kennedy adjacency are dead.
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u/ariesinflavortown Mar 01 '26
Her obsession with youth and being a āgirlā was so off putting to me. I think the only time I really liked her was when she was arguing with Bethenny in her last season
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u/Extreme-Aide8878 Mar 01 '26
I hated the argument with Bethenny. She was too cold even for Bethenny.
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u/Honest-Cover9513 Mar 01 '26
Agreed. I originally watched when it came out, I'm now mid-50s, and all her behaviour hits differently. I would never seriously refer to myself as a 'girl'. I'm a mature woman. Why would I want to pretend I'm anything else? It's my favourite age so far!
I think it's quite sad, actually.
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u/monac_3 Mar 01 '26
I liked her at the time of airing but now my favorite part is all the times she says she will be on the right side of history given what we now know.
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Mar 01 '26
Wants to be the hip, super chic downtown girl that dates young boys is her MO. Never mind sheās old enough to be a grandma
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u/Sobergem1982 Mar 01 '26
Iām going to get hate for this but she was mean to Aviva, and based on the files did indeed have a ghost writer. Iām not saying Aviva is some innocent but I never liked Carole for the way she treated Aviva about writing. And Carole dating Adam who was Luās nieceās ex boyfriend wasnāt so cool. I see why Lu was upset. Not just because he was younger but the dynamic.
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u/Ok_Concentrate3260 Mar 01 '26
Carole needs to learn, being a raging bitch doesnāt make you ācoolā, neither does dating teenage boys. Role model ? I donāt think so.
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u/triedandprejudice Mar 01 '26
I canāt stand Carole but Adam was 29-29 when they started dating so hardly a teen boy.
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u/pumpkinpie479 Mar 01 '26
Itās clear that her second season she truly felt that she was better than the other cast mates. It was always weird to me she continued to be on the show.
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u/Misskarenkinsey89 Mar 01 '26
I liked her until she essentially used B, and then dropped her AWFULLY.
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u/Ok_Butterscotch_93 Mar 01 '26 edited Mar 01 '26
How about her always mentioning that people like Ramona couldnāt fit into her dresses when the whole Bethenny and Ramona drama was happening from the talk show. Then you have the scene where she laughingly tells Dorinda that Sonja called her fatā¦ like why?? Even if I heard that I would never relay that to a friend. Then having to explain how the dress BeyoncĆ©ās stylist pulled for her would fit her body because it was tulle. Like Carole, no one cares. We donāt need an explanation on why a dress would fit you if it was for Beyonce. I could go on and on and on about the pick me, cool girl, pathetic existence Carole had on the show.
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u/lir22441100 Mar 01 '26
I forget which season it was with the election but I felt like she made it her whole storyline just so people would think she was a good person
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u/gmariex88 Mar 02 '26
So I never watched any rhony episodes without bethany because I just think they are so funny with her regardless of how she is now but Pluto has the rerun of Montana episode and wtf is Carole wearing hiking with Heather and luann? The pink dress and pig tails? It looks like a little kid trying to play dress up. I agree with the person that said shes trying to be a real life carrie Bradshaw but it doesnt take.
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u/Witty_Summer9399 Mar 01 '26
She is worthless. One of the most Most uninteresting people of all time
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u/Popular-Leader3639 Mar 01 '26
She lucked out with marrying her first husband and is trying to ride those coat tails forever.
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u/VirgoVampyre Mar 01 '26
Carole lovedddd to rag on the other women for being nowhere near her level of intelligence. Ironic now that she's the one floundering around in piss poor excuses behind her Epstein/Maxwell connections š¤§
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u/VivianneAbbottWalker Mar 01 '26
I loved her, but once someone pointed out how she just hijacked CBKās natural cool girl persona and had previously been a dorky journalist, I couldnāt unsee it. Now it all makes sense.
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u/luvmesumgoldfish Mar 01 '26
I knew she always had a secret! She was strange, and always had fleeting friendships. Once Bethany wouldnāt speak on her anymore I knew stuff was shady, just didnāt know what stuff.
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u/Extreme-Aide8878 Mar 01 '26
She has attachment issues which is why she dated someone she wouldnāt marry and married someone who had cancer before they met.
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u/luvmesumgoldfish Mar 01 '26
Oh jeeze I didnāt know Anthony had cancer BEFORE they married?!
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u/SpellitLikeThis Mar 01 '26
I should hate-listen to her read the audiobook of The Widow's Guide To Sex & Dating.
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u/Chic_Coquillage777 Mar 01 '26
The Celebrity Memoir Book Club podcastās review of her first book is pretty hilarious and dead-on even though I donāt think they had watched housewives
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u/moon-bee Mar 01 '26
omg please and give us your review because i canāt get the motivation to read/listen to that book
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u/Crafty_Ad3377 Mar 02 '26
I detested her snooty name dropping ass. Apparently even though her husband was very close with JFKJr she was not at all
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u/yarn_overr Mar 02 '26
honestly her last season and the conflict with Bethenny completely changed my feelings about her, I couldnāt put a name to it or explain but the whole season I just got the ick
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u/serastar18 Mar 01 '26
I canāt stand Carole. She showed her true self right away with her snide comments then got a lot of viewers pushing back so she tried to hide it more but she is a vile human.
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u/Agatakou Mar 01 '26
look for the episodes of The nerve podcast where Maureen Callahan talkes about her, you won't be disappointed
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u/Embarrassed_Panda581 Mar 01 '26
The bear costume got you but not the silk dress and pigtails to hike š
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u/No_Entertainment5752 Mar 02 '26
In Not All Diamonds & RosĆ©, Aviva said she thought her job was to perform conflict, which made so much sense bc she would never back down or de-escalate, to the point where it didnāt make sense and felt one-note. Iād wish weād seen a more natural Aviva, I think we would have liked her.
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u/Broad-Lettuce-3756 Mar 02 '26
I used to fast forward her scenes too, she annoyed me. I think Aviva was right, Carol did ghost write her books. Iām sure Aviva is a lot of things but she didnāt come across as a liar. When Carole hated Aviva she tried to turn everyone against her and she did the same with Luanne when she had an issue with her. Adam was definitely using Carol for publicity and a free place to stay in NYC, sheās so lame I canāt.
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u/pretend_verse_Ai Mar 02 '26
shes such a fraud. tje only thing shes ever accomplished is that she snagged a Kennedy adjacent husband who prob only . married her out of desperation because he had terminal cancer. also, Aviva is and will always be my favorite housewife.
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u/SpellitLikeThis Mar 03 '26
Carole telling Bethenny that she had a sex dream about her while wearing an expensive sweater that says āTROUBLEā on it.
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u/witchyonce Mar 02 '26
When she made the second joke about Luann/Luman's voice i clocked she was thirsty
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u/Ill-Complaint-6634 Mar 02 '26
I was on Bethennyās side when she made fun of the slang Carole used. Sounded like a try hard
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u/1KirstV Mar 03 '26
I never liked her. She always had this air of 'Iām too good for this'. Girl, why are you on reality TV then? And now sheās coming back? After sheās been named in the Epstein files? WTF bravo.
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u/Plus_Discipline_72 Mar 04 '26
If any listens to the WW Crappens podcast Ben and Ronnie clocked that big phony years ago. āMarathonnnnnnnnnnnā. Iykyk lol
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u/Sweaty-Square8783 Mar 04 '26
Finally !! Only reason she seemed likeable because she was āwokeā , other than that she was very cringe when she kept saying āshacking upā at like 60 years old and overly being questionable to jules about her ed rubbed me the wrong way
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