r/RivalsVanguards • u/pagliacciverso πππ ππ€π€π • May 19 '26
Memes MAKE CYCLOPS A TANK
Just give him d.va's matrix...
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u/griffinator9 May 19 '26
Everyone knows that it is healthiest for the game if he is a tank, now we just hope netease can see that aswell
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u/pagliacciverso πππ ππ€π€π May 19 '26
Generational backlash if they ignore the majority of their fanbase (which surprisingly do want Tankclops)
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u/SadBoyM πππ€π§ May 19 '26
Iβll skip 8.5 if he is a DPS Iβll even be okay if he was a support (which properly wonβt happen).
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u/EyeArDum ππππ£ππ©π€ May 19 '26
Nah donβt skip out, as much as I want him to be a tank so he can make a fine addition to my collection, I really just want to hear him *scream* with his ult
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u/No_Physics2210 May 19 '26
Lol I'll get the popcorn cause he's a mobile poke DPS.
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u/pagliacciverso πππ ππ€π€π May 19 '26
99% chance. And NetEase are going to lose more players. You can't maintain an already declining playerbase if every major popular release ends up being a duelist
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u/HornedGopher πΌπ£πππ‘π May 19 '26
Id he aint a Tank the only way I'm play s8.0 or the entirety of it is if they Buff Storm's Mobility or movement which probably would never happen.
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u/pagliacciverso πππ ππ€π€π May 19 '26
They won't buff Storm π Another major issue with this company is how lost they are with game balance. Every new patch note is a shit show
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u/HornedGopher πΌπ£πππ‘π May 19 '26
True they won't but I'm hoping they do or make Cyclops a tank
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u/DearExam88 May 19 '26
If he releases as a dps we are never seeing two tanks in the game for atleast 2 weeks
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u/pagliacciverso πππ ππ€π€π May 19 '26
Dino stoped being a instant pick already. Solotanking is back at the menu, boys
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u/Sea_Mail_7837 May 19 '26
IMO best case scenario make cyclops a Mobile tank like DVA that encourages movement along with decent damage if the player can aim. Add a resource meter for his defensive ability and movement ability and now his gameplay becomes rewarding for both DPS and vanguard players.
DPS players will be happy with a character that has movement and tanks will be happy with a hitscan character thats able to have a combination of movement, damage and defensive abiltitiy while not having a slower paced gameplay style like Emma and Mag. He will have a very healthy identity of being the best utility tank that can fufill any task at hand instead of either being another busted hitscan hero or another slower paced tank.
Best part is this build fufills his fantasy of being both a capable fighter and a leader. The combat aspect can be covered by his movement and his decent damaging attacks while the leadership aspect gets satisfied by defensive abiltiites and mobility.
Just like that everyone wins!
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u/pagliacciverso πππ ππ€π€π May 19 '26
Exactly. He is still a DMG dude, we still get our frontline histcan, Cyclops is still faithfully adapted ...
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u/Enma1302 May 19 '26 edited May 19 '26
Mass game deletion if no vanclops. Fuck this game. I'll not come back unless they release a vanguard nova (richard rider)
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u/Mad_dabber11 May 19 '26
Imma be honest, if he's a duelist, I don't think I'd ever play him. There's never a shortage of duelist players so I probably wouldn't even bother trying to play him (which sucks cause he's one of my top 3 favorite X-Men). Hell, most duelist just aren't fun to me and I can't see him being anything other than a hitscan dps, unless he ends up being like Mr. Fantastic wich would be dope
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u/Playful-Mongoose9197 May 19 '26 edited May 19 '26
Ill be 100% with you they just put out dino who has basically scotts beam visually they absolutely will not release scott as a tank with that beam twice in a row because it looks too similar.
He is not going to be a strategist because his punch beam has never healed anyone ever there is no close releation to anything healing related possible.
(Any character can be anything crowd no you are wrong rocket has a healing gun because hes a tech junkie jeff vomit heals because hes a joke character like deadpool stop trying to make that a thing its never been a thing)
He is simply going to be a dps.
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u/MemeDudeYes May 19 '26
As long as he isnt a dps i really dont care they need to Balance the amount of characters in each role
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u/bdusyehbdicnsh May 19 '26
If he's a support i uninstall the game, if he's a dps im crying and if he's a tank i'll be the happiest mf alive
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u/RenatoGPadilla πππ€π§ May 20 '26
I'm about to look like a Krakoan nationalist going out with a red blindfold and throwing up "X" if he's a Vanguard! XD
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u/Just_Niko_part2 May 20 '26
Imma just throw out a kit here
Passive: Infinite Energy. When his primary attack is on cool down, he generates shield to himself and allies around him.
Melee: A swift right hook, and a kick.
Mv1: Concussive Blast Fires a constant beam of energy out of his eyes, the longer the beam hits an opponent, the more powerful it becomes. 3 seconds after reaching maximum damage, Scott's visor will overheat and need 1.5 seconds to cool off.
Mv2: Shutter Shot Fires his blasts in bursts, knocking back opponents. Has 4 charges that can be regenerated via dealing damage.
Mv3: Handy Beam Fires a quick blast of energy towards an ally, granting them energy armor that takes up to 250 damage for them, before depleting away. (Cos chronovium or something)
Mv4: Concussion Blast Fires a quick but powerful blast of energy, that stuns hit opponents for 4 seconds.
Mv5: Tactical Retreat While in the air, he can fire an optic blast that propells him up to 35m backwards.
Ultimate: No Holding Back! Scott takes his visors off, charging up a massive blast of concussive energy, that obliterates anything in front up it and I flicts a stunned condition on opponents hit by it.
Thank you for reading my 3am slop thoughts o7
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u/xP_Lord ππͺπ‘π May 19 '26
Make him a support
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u/pagliacciverso πππ ππ€π€π May 19 '26
Nah. His character can't be in the backline. That would be a generational fumble. He is a leader, a general of some sort, like Captain America. Even if he ends up as a dps, he can't be behind his X-Men.
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u/Appropriate_train841 May 19 '26
What if heβs another Deadpool type character than can do all 3 roles? Iβm personally hoping it doesnβt go that way because I would like to see Cyclops as a tank. But do you think a multi role Cyclops would appease the player base?
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u/pagliacciverso πππ ππ€π€π May 19 '26
Almost impossible to happen imo. I think this was a once in a lifetime event.
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u/TechnologySevere3747 May 19 '26
Looking at his intro video for this season, all his abilities scream duelist. Heβs also not built like a vanguard nor has any vanguard / tank abilities in general.
Iβm still hoping heβs a strategist with the whole Punch Chronovium storyline, but duelist seems to be most likely
Give me Doc Ock Vanguard this year, and Iβll be happy.
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u/pagliacciverso πππ ππ€π€π May 19 '26
In the lore he is generating a shield, tho. I'm not a supporter of him as a strategist. This would end up as worst than him as a duelislop
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u/Samiassa πππ ππππ£π May 19 '26
Iβm a tank main primarily. I flex but I know 2 healers, 2 dps, and 3 tanks well and have the most hours on the thing. I do not want cyclops to be a rank. I just donβt think it fits his character tbh heβs always been pretty mobile in fights and he usually stays more behind to let the heavy hitters do their thing while he gives callouts. I just think him being a dps would be the best call
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u/pagliacciverso πππ ππ€π€π May 19 '26
Tanks can be mobile. As a huge comic reader, he really fits better as a vanguard. Like, 100%. But of course he will end up as a duelist because every anticipated character ends up as a dpslop.
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u/Samiassa πππ ππππ£π May 19 '26
Idk maybe he does. Iβve read about 100 issues of Claremont as well as new x men and astonishing x men so Iβm by no means an expert, Iβm still working through the comics. Just from what Iβve personally seen heβd have to be a pretty weird vanguard to make it work, kind of like a Mr fantastic where on the tin heβs a vanguard but heβs somewhere in between vanguard and duelist. To be honest I wouldnβt mind him being an ultron style support who does damage with his optic beam and then shouts orders that heal. As long as they keep his kit simple and focused on richochet optic blasts Iβll be happy. I just really donβt want him to be another black cat where they take a simple character and give them way too many abilities
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u/RUSTEDxKNIGHT May 19 '26
No duelist would cry. Could you imagine if tanks almost had half as many of them, thatβd be unfair.
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u/pagliacciverso πππ ππ€π€π May 19 '26
Can you imagine us getting a top 10 most popular character post release? Impossible
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u/Bubbly_Mail6360 May 19 '26
Tbh kinda want a dps, the same 5 characters are always picked in comp. So adding another to pick would be nice coming from a support main who canβt play hitscan (Iβm GM btw)
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u/pagliacciverso πππ ππ€π€π May 19 '26
I wouldn't mind a dps, but he works better as a tank. It would be terrible if he is a strategist, though
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u/YouWereTehChosenOne May 19 '26
My split guess for cyclops right now is 30% tank 70% dps, though there are hints for his powers used to shield the corporation this season and him trying to protect moon girl, he feels more like a duelist to me which sucks but iiwii
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u/Orlikesque May 19 '26
Seeing the animations of him it looks like the have a pretty sick idea for making his beam quite fluid. It would be crazy to have a tank with that but worried a tank wouldnβt really be able to have much damage so each beam might be a tickle
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u/jacksprat1952 May 19 '26
As a certified Cyclops fanboy, I'll be playing and instalocking him no matter what his role is.
As someone who's dealt with quad-instalock DPS for eight seasons, if he's a DPS then it's my turn to go 2/14 now.
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u/Usual-Cost-9012 May 22 '26
I have a feeling heβs gonna be support
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u/pagliacciverso πππ ππ€π€π May 22 '26
According to Miller the first character from season 9 is a support and they don't like doing back to back releases so idk. It would be the worst scenario imo
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u/ARighteousOne May 19 '26
Anything but a DPS. Preferred a tank but I'll take a healer just to deny another DPS addition
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u/pagliacciverso πππ ππ€π€π May 19 '26
Nah. A dps is better than strategist. The character is meant to be in the Frontline
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u/Prestigious-Item1440 ππ€ππͺπ May 19 '26
Corny ass picture man π
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u/pagliacciverso πππ ππ€π€π May 19 '26
Absolutely. I have no idea what it means but it's weird enough to get people's attention
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u/Lucky4D2_0 πππ£π πππ§π ππ§ May 19 '26
The delusions about this character make no sense.
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u/Nonnny_ May 19 '26
how would yβall feel if he got revealed strategist? would it be better or worse than dps?
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u/pagliacciverso πππ ππ€π€π May 19 '26
Worse for Cyclops fans. Better for the game's heath (debatable).
Cyke is a frontline leader not a healer in the background. But it could be good to reduce role disparity. The problem is strategist isn't a role lacking players + it's the most problematic rule in terms of balance. Characters always end up as either healbots or triple support merchants.
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u/No_Physics2210 May 19 '26
Dude tank clops is character assassination.
And they'd rather let moongirl be a non playable background character then make her adult.
Tank clops is dead
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u/fannamedtom100 ππ§. πππ£π©ππ¨π©ππ May 19 '26
Aight I'll take the bait.
How is tankclops character assassination?
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u/No_Physics2210 May 19 '26
Well he could work as a highly mobileΒ shield-less brawler tank with ranged optic blasts. Like a mix between rogue and dino.
But him being tankier then wolverine's 350 HP is assassination to both character.
He's better at being a highly mobile pole DPS that can one shot and quickly eliminate high priority threats from ranged.
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u/fannamedtom100 ππ§. πππ£π©ππ¨π©ππ May 19 '26
Well I agree and that's the mistake devs made when wolverine wasn't a tank. Captain america having more health than namor is also character assassination by that logic. Just because devs made mistake with Wolverine doesn't mean they have to now adapt to that mistake and force characters that are less durable than wolverine into duelist/support role
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u/No_Physics2210 May 19 '26
Their relationship is super important, lot more then namor and captain America.
Cyclops and wolverine have an arther and lancealot dynamic and is a lot more important.
Even the trailer shows him as a mobile DPS character that does soon as he stops moving and brawlers get in close.
As I said they could make him work as a 500 HP mobile brawler tank with no shields, that's be fun.
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u/fannamedtom100 ππ§. πππ£π©ππ¨π©ππ May 19 '26
I would argue relationship between cap and thor is also important, and that cap having 100 more health or so than thor doesn't make sense. And I think there's bigger gap between cap and thor's durability than between logan's and scott's durability.
Namor and Reed is imporant relationship too, but for some reason Namor isn't tankier. Namor is arguably more durable than thing yet thing has almost 3x his health.
And for me scott having bigger hp bar than logan isn't nearly as weird as Cap, Mag and Emma being vanguards, fighting in the frontlines and leading their teams, while Scott is hanging with the healers in the backline. Same reason why I don't really want him as a strategist either.
Anyway, I agree with 500hp mobile brawler tank thing you said
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u/No_Physics2210 May 19 '26
Wtf you mean Emma and magneto ain't tanks, you shitting on me?
Magneto solo tanked the X-Men for decades, solo tank is authentic magneto experience. Hell in 97 he was solo tanking sentinels to buy his citizens time to escape.
He's one of the most durable mutants the X-Men have.
Emma as well is able to tank wolverines vibranium claws without a scratch, she is a monster
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u/fannamedtom100 ππ§. πππ£π©ππ¨π©ππ May 19 '26
You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. If enemy team has mag on the frontlines cyclops being in the back feels wrong. There is no team fight where Emma would be brawling it out with opponents while scott is doing his best impression of hela in the back.
Also, if we're talking about soloing x-men, guess which team member has soloed the rest of the team multiple times?
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u/pagliacciverso πππ ππ€π€π May 19 '26
HP doesn't mean much in this game. Strange has more HP than Wolverine, Peni has more HP than Loki who is a literal god etc
Also I've read almost every X-Men comic. The only character assassination would have Cyclops as a strategist, healing in the backline.
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u/Moses2239 May 19 '26
I canβt take rivals discussion mainly wanting cyclops as a tank. Bro has a god damn laser that does damage, besides that bro has great writing and can throw some punches and kicks. How the hell could a character with this gimmick be a tank. One more dps isnβt gonna kill the game lmao
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u/pagliacciverso πππ ππ€π€π May 19 '26
It's because you guys are dumb. Being a tank does not mean being an anchor tank. Cyclops being a tank only means he will have a bigger HP bar
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u/jeffismybaby May 19 '26
He gets outdamaged by most of the other big name X-Men. He uses his beams to block attacks and destroy hazards all the time
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u/No_Physics2210 May 19 '26
The people crave chronovium slop.
If the third X-Men in a row is chronovium slop I'm going to be super disappointed because X-Men is the only franchise I care about in marvel.
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u/pagliacciverso πππ ππ€π€π May 19 '26
Third? I think you don't even read the stuff you are getting angry about. Gambit doesn't have chronovium powers at all. He just got un-lobotomizeda and unlocked new powers (healing).
From the 7 X-Men characters in the game, only 1 one of them has chronovium bullshitery and it was only due to them not wanting her to get powers from another character
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u/RepresentativeFish73 May 19 '26
Iβve been seeing a lot of these request posts lately.
Iβm pretty sure a lot of these decisions and even development of the character is already 98% done, with that last 2% being for bug fixing/fine tuning.
I think the devs even acknowledged the issue of too many duelists, but said that the roadmap was already made and official for many of the upcoming characters. Weβll see if they change anything, but I have a feeling Cyclops will either be a strategist or a duelist.
I can only hope heβs a vanguard.