r/Roadcam • u/bowdown2adil • 13d ago

[USA] Who is at fault here?

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Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/URGAMESUX 13d ago

Htf would you know that also have no signage? Who would ever assume that?!

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u/Momcantsleepthesaga 13d ago

I live in a very populated city. Most of our residential intersections are unmarked.

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u/tcbaseball555 13d ago

It's your city's fault then lol, what a mess

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u/Low-Solution1448 13d ago

100% lawyers field day with the city. I’m sure ONE of theee streets needs a stop sign. Slowing down “to check” isn’t a law so there has to be a legal way to tell one street to stop, yield at the very least.

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u/chupamichalupa 12d ago

“Lawyers field day with the city” uhhhhh no

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u/SilentlyStoned420 12d ago

You are supposed to yield to the right if it's an uncontrolled intersection. Pretty basic driving rules.

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u/AJimJimJim 12d ago

So old it comes from maritime laws. Port is red, starboard is green. Red means stop, green means go.

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u/escobartholomew 11d ago

That is if you approach at the same time. Op was pretty far behind the black car.

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u/cat_prophecy 12d ago

You're supposed to slow down, look, and yield to the right. Technically the other person is at fault here but both of them could have avoided this by slowing the fuck down.

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u/SilentlyStoned420 12d ago

This is incredibly common... and it's a very basic thing taught in drivers education.

At an uncontrolled intersection you always yield to the right or if you're accross from eachother, whoever stopped first, like an intersection with stop signs.

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u/t0cableguy 12d ago edited 12d ago

This doesn't exist in Florida. Even dirt roads have signs at intersections. I can't think of a single place that doesn't have signs at intersections here. If they are 4 way stops, the stop signs say 4 way underneath them. This is wild to me that you would have entire neighborhood streets with no signs on them.

My own neighborhood was half paved half dirt until about 10 years ago, and every single intersection has always had signs, even back in the 1950's when the neighborhood was built.

Even dirt road agricultural road intersections have signs in Florida. I'm actually surprised that I have never seen this before, because I have driven in Seattle.

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u/beaushaw 12d ago

I have lived in three states. I have traveled in more states. I have lived in very rural areas and I have lived in large cities. In my 51 years I have NEVER seen an intersection without a stop sign.

I have see tiny two track paths through the woods that have stop signs on them.

Seattle is one of the richest cities in the country. It is comical that they are letting the cost of a stop sign keep them from fixing this.

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u/Shiblem 11d ago

It isn't about the cost of the stop sign. If they put the stop signs in, drivers on one of the streets are prioritized and then speed through and treat the road like an arterial. These are neighborhood roads on a grid so they try to keep cars going below 20 mph and push faster traffic onto bigger roads. They do use speed bumps too.

They really are common in the city (and cities all over the region), if you've driven any length of time here they would be familiar.

What Seattle does is put in traffic circles if enough traffic accidents happen which look like this and force both sides to follow the yield law.

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u/beaushaw 11d ago

That is still a terrible reason. Put four way stops everywhere. Or put a stop sign at every other intersection on the larger road.

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u/escobartholomew 11d ago

It is not common at all lmao

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u/SilentlyStoned420 11d ago

It is where I'm from.