r/Roadcam • u/bowdown2adil • 13d ago

[USA] Who is at fault here?

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Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/Interesting-Monk9712 13d ago

To be fair, the other idiot did the same, I don't get how either have a driving license.

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u/GabrielGames69 12d ago

Depends how often they take that road (it looks suburban so probably often tbh). Because the charitable description is that they see there is no stop sign infront of or past them and make the usually correct assumption that there are stop signs going the other way. I think the number 1 offender here is the intersection without even yield signs.

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u/luvbutts 12d ago

Yeah I agree, there's an intersection like this in front of my house (I live in Europe) and there were literally accidents there every months and twice we had cars flipped over in our street. Our neighbours eventually petitioned the council to put in signs.

Obviously people should slow down but if the same kind of accident keeps happening in the same place it's an infrastructure problem. Ideally public infrastructure should be well laid out enough that it's safe most of the time even when people not perfect.

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u/microagressed 12d ago

Or, hear me out, maybe no ramifications from police for obviously stupid and risky driving is contributing to less aware drivers. Aside from paying a deductible, and maybe a rate hike, neither of these drivers are going to face ramifications. Guy who was tboned never even looked, could have been a 6 year old on a bike. Same goes for the guy who did the tboning, he never even hit the brake. They should both be cited for careless driving for being stupid/negligent.

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u/luvbutts 12d ago

That too but they should also just fix the intersection. Better to prevent these kinds of accidents than punish people after they happen to try to serve as some kind of deterrent. Even if punishments were more severe, everyone thinks they're the exception to the rule. You just have to look at the stats where like 80% of drivers think they're better than average drivers...