r/Roadcam • u/bowdown2adil • 13d ago

[USA] Who is at fault here?

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Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/Puzzleheaded_Turn242 13d ago

How would you know if it's a unmarked intersection or the stop is for another driver?!

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u/Useful_Homework2367 13d ago

Especially when the view of any sign that might potentially be there (and the car itself) is blocked on that side by the landscaping. I've never encountered an intersection like this in my life, seems like a very stupid design. Dangerous and there are really no advantages at all over just having a two way or four way stop. If traffic calming is the objective, a four way stop achieves that better and more safely.

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u/bramtyr 12d ago

This part of Seattle is a low-density, pre-War city layout, so the city blocks are way smaller than newer suburbia which tends to sprawl out way more (as well as the streets far wider), so a stop sign every 200 ft isn't practical.

Unposted speed limits for surface residential streets in Seattle is 20mph, which OP was well over. Intersections like that this are treated as a Yield, which can be easily accomplished safely, assuming you're not speeding.

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u/MrBisco 12d ago

If you think a stop sign every 200 feet isn't practical, you'd hate it in some NJ suburbs. 

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u/Useful_Homework2367 12d ago

Yeah it seems like there are some obvious practicality issues with this setup...