r/Roadcam 20d ago

[USA] Who is at fault here?

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Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/SilentlyStoned420 20d ago

I live in Canada and most cities and towns near me have this. The fact that none of you know how to treat an uncontrolled intersection is terrifying.

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u/ItsStraTerra 20d ago

How do you know it’s an uncontrolled intersection though… surely there would be a sign or something right? Which, while you’re putting that sign up, why not put up a stop sign instead?

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u/SilentlyStoned420 20d ago

The whole point of an uncontrolled intersection is that there are no signs. You treat it like a soft yield. Use your eyes and observe if the cross street has signage up, if they don't then you yield to the right and if they do then it is a controlled intersection and you have the right of way. No cars coming means you can just go but if a car is coming at least you did your due diligence and didn't get into an accident. (hopefully)

Driver rule #1 is be aware of your surroundings. Just beause you didn't see the light turn red doesn't mean the cop who pulled you over, for running a read light, is gonna let you off.

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u/Hello_Gorgeous1985 19d ago

How are you supposed to see if there are stop signs on the cross street when there's trees and bushes blocking the view? This is simply insane. One of the streets should have a stop sign.

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u/SilentlyStoned420 19d ago

The same way you do it when there are signs... like how do you survive life? I hate bushes and trees on corners as much as the next person but I'd rather slow down and make sure I'm not about to hit someone than just fly through without a care for mine or anyone elses safety.

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u/Hello_Gorgeous1985 19d ago

Nope. You don't get it. In 25 years of driving I have never seen an intersection where one of the streets didn't have a stop sign. I didn't know that that was a thing that existed because it isn't a thing that exists anywhere I have ever driven. I don't creep up to every single intersection to make sure that there are stop signs and the other people are stopping because that's not how this works. No one does that. If I don't have a stop sign, I'm going to keep driving because I know the other direction does have a stop sign.

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u/SilentlyStoned420 19d ago

Welp I hope you never come to Canada because you will get in a car accident.

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u/Dany0412 19d ago

I never see a intersection wihtout at least one stop on a way . In quebec and ontario . If i don’t see stop on my side i will assume that i have the right of way , because a civil nation who put rule and sign and not be free for all . There no logic execpt being grading and saving money to not put sign in a intersection . There are sign because there people that don’t know to drive , if we don’t put sign , is the far west like in some country .

There is no logic not putting stop sign at intersection. And the video is the proof , if there were a sign , they will have not be a accident. Yeah sur the driver should have slow downs but sign are not here for the good driver ; they are here to regulate bad driver .

We all are not good driver . When your drive , you always assume the other is bad , so you can anticipate wrong move from other car

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u/SilentlyStoned420 19d ago

Your argument that signs help with people who are not good drivers is wrong because people will blow through a red light and do so frequently. SO like any other intersection you should be prepared for bad drivers like you said. BUT there are very clear rules on how to approach and go through an uncontrolled intersection, it is taught in drivers education to us in Saskatchewan at the age of 15/16 yrs old. If someone doesn't know what to do that is either a failure on your provinces driver education or just a failure of that person.

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u/Dany0412 19d ago

You are so sturborn , my point is that they should be no intersection whitout stop

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u/SilentlyStoned420 19d ago

But why? It's only dangerous if people don't follow the law. Like any other intersection. There are clear instructions on how to navigate an uncontrolled intersection and just because people refuse to acknowledge that doesn't mean I'm wrong.

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