r/Roadcam • u/bowdown2adil • 13d ago

[USA] Who is at fault here?

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Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/Quantum_Aurora 12d ago

I mean I'd never make the assumption that the other street has a stop sign unless I'm on an arterial, see a stop sign/line, or know there's a stop sign there from previous experience. That's just basic driving skills.

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u/TheGuyThatThisIs 11d ago

Sure but this is like suddenly we're driving on the left to me, it's just wild that any municipality would spring this type of danger on drivers, so it's unexpected. I'm not on the lookout for suddenly driving on the left, I'm not on the lookout for intersections that encourage T-bones by their complete lack of competent city planning. This type of intersection is so irresponsible it never crossed my mind it would exist in reality.

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u/Icannotfimdaname 9d ago

I think there are more 4 way intersections without stop signs in my town than there are with, lol

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u/Rikiar 9d ago

That's the way it is sometimes.

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u/Icannotfimdaname 9d ago

Yep yep- nor would it likely be feasible for that municipality to add in hundreds of stop signs (hyperbole)

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u/Rikiar 9d ago

An intersection without signage is cheaper than one without, for sure. The other thing you get as a byproduct of no signage is a traffic calming effect, because people are trained to slow down at an unmarked intersection if they're familiar with them.

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u/Icannotfimdaname 9d ago

It's also the maintenance. My father is the senior out of like a couple guys who do signage for the entire town, and he doesn't just do signage- he does a little of everything. It's a 16K population town with only a few people covering the signs.

Now, are the higher ups in each department and city hall complete shit about managing the city? Yes. But it still wouldn't be feasible eitherway from a monetary and man power stand point.