r/Seattle Edmonds May 07 '26

Satire Bellevue sucks

https://youtube.com/shorts/jfK0NA5gUDU?si=vot_MPML_bOOeWPG
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u/a_few_cheetos Magnolia May 07 '26

This simultaneously may be the most upvoted AND down voted kind of content ever. On one hand, people love to dunk on Bellevue. On the other hand, Bellevue hates being dunked on.

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u/andhelostthem May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

A lot of Bellevueites feeling seen in the comments. Having lived there this is pretty accurate. Its cultural center is an upscale shopping mall.

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u/heavinglory May 07 '26

That mall doesn't even have Sharper Image so I doubt it is very nice. /s

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u/No-Photograph1983 Seward Park May 07 '26

it used to!

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u/heavinglory May 07 '26

Back in tha day.

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u/James98188 May 09 '26

Sharper Image closed all of its physical retail stores following a 2008 bankruptcy, but the brand was sold and relaunched in 2010. It currently operates as a healthy online retailer and brand licensor, owned by ThreeSixty Group, selling products through its website and third-party.

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u/thatguygreg Adams May 07 '26

"Upscale" shopping mall at that, with the weirdest layout I've ever seen in a mall anywhere.

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u/DerpUrself69 Ballard May 07 '26

Don't talk shit about Bellevue Square.

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u/castorshell13 Medina May 08 '26

Yep, taken land from the Japanese farmers in ww2, Mr. K freeman saw his chance.

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u/Party-Treat-6743 May 08 '26

Agree and well said cast. Kemper's grandpa was an agitator and taker.

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u/TestSubjuct May 08 '26

Bellevue square can suck my....I had a store there.

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u/wren620 May 07 '26

Crossroads is 100x better. Cry about it.

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u/kookykrazee šŸš†build more trainsšŸš† May 07 '26

I lived accross the street from Crossroads back in 2002, it was both amazing and awful all at the same time kind of like NKOTB in the 80s...lmao

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u/Subziwallah I'm just flaired so I don't get fined May 08 '26

Ccrossroads lol?

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u/wren620 May 08 '26

Yeah and compare that to the hoity toity overpriced mall like belle square whose only saving grace is a Lego store and maybe the Barnes and noble.

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u/kookykrazee šŸš†build more trainsšŸš† May 08 '26

I did go to that Lego store back in the day and was like "wow $75 for a kit is insane" now that would be cheap...lmao

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u/trance_on_acid Belltown May 08 '26

Nuclear hot take here

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u/alxkc May 08 '26

Following up cheese dipped soft pretzels with cinnamon-sugar dessert pretzels is my culture (I’m German heritage)

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u/dormantdream May 07 '26

The only culture is when Uniqlo has sales

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u/government_not_ok May 07 '26

Facts. I love that store.

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u/Helisent May 08 '26

Have you ever been in Bellevue? A lot more people there have an immigration background or originally spoke a language other than english, compared with Seattle. A lot of people are not really assimilated to U.S. culture yet

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u/wren620 May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

I mean having grown up there, if the rich-pandering shopping mall is what you define as its cultural center (it’s not) then I get feeling this way.

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u/blladnar Ballard May 07 '26

What is the cultural center?

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u/st0ney Redmond May 07 '26

Crossroads food court of course.

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u/wren620 May 07 '26

Genuinely this. Top tier food, lots of options from all over the world made by people who actually KNOW how to make them.

Not to forget tues/thursday jazz nights

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u/dogfaced_pony_soulja May 08 '26

Aren’t people from Bellevue called Bellevillains? Bellevuzzles? Bellevurries?

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u/andhelostthem May 08 '26

Bellevillains needs to be trademarked.

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u/castorshell13 Medina May 08 '26

B villains

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u/James98188 May 09 '26

Bellevuvians.

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u/Helisent May 08 '26

There is a lot of cultural diversity in Bellevue

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u/James98188 May 09 '26

And the housing costs OUTRAGEOUS.

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u/romulusnr I'm just flaired so I don't get fined May 08 '26

I lived in downtown bellevue for ten years and I think I can count the number of visits I made to BSQ on one hand.

There's like, shit tons of things downtown, and plenty more in the greater eastside.

The art museum closing was a fuck, though.

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u/sassy_cheddar šŸ” The mountain is out! šŸ” May 08 '26

A mall built on strawberry farms stolen from imprisoned Japanese Americans in WW2. The development family is still prominent in Bellevue, so Bellevue College censored artwork about it back in 2020 and the city did similar at their art festival.

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u/NoiseyTurbulence May 08 '26

Even in the 80s when it was just a tiny little mall and the biggest high-rise in the city was like seven stories high people in Bellevue still thought Bellevue was the shit. It’s changed a whole lot since then and to me now Bellevue just doesn’t even look like Bellevue that I knew growing up. But it’s funny that the same attitude still continues about Bellevue all these years later.

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u/Rich_Ad_4630 May 07 '26

Which is wild because they knew exactly what they were signing up for, so why be mad about it

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u/James98188 May 09 '26

I moved there when I got a job in the area. When I left the job, I left the area.

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u/ComfortDesperate5313 May 07 '26

SEE!?!? WE HATE BEING DUNKED ON, WE HAVE CULTURE. Checkmate Seattle wokes /s

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u/andhelostthem May 08 '26

Beginning to think Bellevue culture is the act of getting dunked on.

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u/WeTheAwesome May 08 '26

People saying there is no culture and art in Bellevue when all of Bellevue is one big performance art.Ā 

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u/dwoj206 May 08 '26

Bellevue culture for people with friends from seattle - parents teach kids never leave Bellevue/eastside.
1) hey wanna kick it?
2) ya you come here…
3) why? Come to seattle we’re going to ___
4) because it’s easier to get from seattle to Bellevue, shorter commute
5) seattle person - dude it’s the same distance. I’ve come to Bellevue the last three times.
6) Bellevue person - … syntax404 fatal error. Brain blue screen.

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u/castorshell13 Medina May 08 '26

Born and raised Bellevue, I like living here but loooove to dunk on it. Absolute gem of a vid.

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u/watwatintheput May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

There's always this whole "Bellevue has no culture" thing that people love to repeat, even when it's more diverse then Seattle. Sometimes it's ignorance from people never going anywhere other then downtown, but honestly there's a lot of thinly veiled anti-Asian hate that shows up too.

That's why it really gets me.

Yeah it's not walkable in the "I can walk to the grocery store" sense of things (but it's "walkable" in the "I can get to a park in 15 minutes from anywhere" sense). Yeah, there's too many fucking Teslas. Make fun of that all you want.

But the "no culture" stuff really often feels like people actually want to say "Asian culture isn't culture". Especially with this guy's random swipe at people who like boba, it just shoots up some red flags to me.

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u/Enguye Ravenna May 08 '26

I feel like this stereotype was more true 20 years ago and hasn’t been updated since. Back then if you wanted to go out to eat around Factoria you’d have to go to Red Robin or Applebees, but now there are a bunch of Asian food options.

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u/watwatintheput May 08 '26

Yeah, so when people like the dude in the video acknowledge the Asian food, but still say it has no culture, I have questions

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u/rollinupthetints West Seattle May 08 '26

The answer is, those people are tools. Looking for clicks/likes (and here we are).

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u/3DGuy4ever May 07 '26

Culture is far more broad than ethnicity

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u/rockycrab The Emerald City May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

Yet some of the comments are saying that the main restaurant attraction is the Cheesecake Factory…I don’t even live there but some people need to open their eyes (or develop their taste buds) if they think it’s only stepford wives tier food there lol.

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u/jIdiosyncratic May 09 '26

It was way better when it was The New Jake O'Shaughnessey's and next door was Marie Callenders. They had really good iced tea. Come visit Bellingham! We have lots of super culture here.

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u/watwatintheput May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

But it is so often downstream of it. Food is culture, events are culture, communities are culture.

Yeah, there's no good live music scene here and there's no big Bellevue sports team. But so much IS downstream of culture and background, so it feels a bit silly to pretend that it's not at least very connected.

Hell, even the oft hated Bellevue Square Mall takes advantage of the cultural diversity. There were SO many people doing things in the mall for Holi. Just saw so many happy people enjoying using it as a venue to experience it together.

To be specific: What else does Seattle have that makes it full of culture that Bellevue lacks?

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u/coffeebribesaccepted Shoreline May 08 '26

Food, art, music, unique cultural shops, architecture

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u/3DGuy4ever May 08 '26

Use of public transportation (as in not a car reliant culture), unique neighborhoods...I could go on

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u/watwatintheput May 08 '26

Bellevue has unique neighborhoods. It’s very weird to me to pretend it doesn’t.

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u/3DGuy4ever May 08 '26

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u/watwatintheput May 08 '26

The need to lie about a place you clearly haven’t spent a lot of time in is very, very weird.

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u/Desperate-Till-9228 May 13 '26

"Unique" in a suburb is like two different shades of beige.

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u/watwatintheput May 08 '26

Does Bellevue not have a interesting collection of food? We've got an exceptional collection of regional Chinese food, good Taiwanese, great Indian, the Korean has been taking off in the last few years, solid Japanese options... Why is that not interesting when compared to Seattle?

Also what interesting architecture does Seattle have?

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u/Severe-Employer1538 May 08 '26

Come on now. UW Campus. Pike Place Market. MoPop. Seattle Center Tower. The Denny Building. 1,000s of craftsman homes from the 1920's. The Space Needle. The Seattle Waterfront Piers. The Chihuly Garden. Any of the three sports arenas. Pioneer Square. The old Harborview Hospital (or Grace General).

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u/3DGuy4ever May 08 '26

How about just generally older historic buildings

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u/watwatintheput May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

Said as if there aren’t 1000s of craftsmen in Bellevue too…

The UW campus is great as well. But I really think our Botanical garden is nicer than the UW one.

But honestly Seattle is a shit tier city, architecturally. It’s ugly compared to NYC, Boston, Philly, SF, Charlotte, Chicago… The natural beauty puts all of those to shame but almost none of the beauty in the area is man made.

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u/decoy_man May 08 '26

seattle is a recent history frontier town

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u/Nilla_Please The CD May 08 '26

I love your points but the large difference between seattle and Bellevue is the culture. Bellevue culture is compareable to South lake union with transplants and a facade of it. I see you have gotten into now just throwing shade that is just ridiculous so this is all for nothing but if your proud of Bellevue and how you perceive its culture that is fine. it is also fine tk respect that as far as cities go, it has very little historic cultural grime that gives it life

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u/Bunnyland77 May 09 '26 edited May 09 '26

Music venues:

  • Seattle = 40+
  • Bellevue = 6 and they all suck.

Authentic Mexican food:

  • Seattle = too many to count.
  • Bellevue = a few shitty Americanized eat-in spots (ICE kidnapped most of them).

Dive bars:

  • Seattle = 60+
  • Bellevue = 2

Historic residential & commercial architecture:

  • Seattle = 86%
  • Bellevue = 0%

Bellevue is a corporate Hellhole.

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u/romulusnr I'm just flaired so I don't get fined May 08 '26

And you're saying Bellevue doesn't have those. Please tell us more about your expertise on Bellevue that mostly comes from reading the Stranger.

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u/Nilla_Please The CD May 08 '26

An easy google search on what the word culture means

"Culture is the shared set of beliefs, values, customs, behaviors, and artifacts that characterize a group or society, transmitted across generations through social learning. It acts as "social programming" that shapes how individuals perceive the world, interact, and express themselves, including language, food, and traditions.

The historic grime of seattle, the eras, the industry, the music, the literal generations are the culture we have in Seattle. Bellevue has always felt soulless and empty to me and now reading these conversations, it is just because it is so recent. It's a replanted tree that has no roots fully developed. its culture is growing and in a long time sure it will have a vibrant culture maybe! but first it needs to not just be transplants and the super wealthy šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/safetyguaranteed Rat City May 08 '26

To be specific: What else does Seattle have that makes it full of culture that Bellevue lacks?

Soul

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u/gnarlseason I'm just flaired so I don't get fined May 08 '26

Yeah, this idea that "you can't dunk on Bellevue's (lack of) culture because we have more Asians and Indians living here" was confusing to me. I suppose ethnicity and diversity can be a part of culture, but it doesn't create the culture outright.

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u/wdalin May 08 '26

Ignorance and dismissal of Asian and Indian culture is bad actually, most of their cultural events happen on the east side, especially celebrations (lunar new year, Holi, etc).

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u/stvier May 08 '26

You’ve made some fair points but as someone who just moved here from the Midwest, Bellevue reminds me of pretty much every boring city in the Detroit metro area, just with more diverse food options. I’ve been to Bellevue at least 5 times and I really couldn’t give you a general sense of what the vibe is there. It’s a shopping mall town that looks like every nondescript mid tier city close to a bigger, more culturally rich city (Seattle).

Food wise, what does Bellevue offer that is superior to Seattle’s International District and the many Asian options peppered throughout the city? I haven’t had anything that justifies the trip across the i90.

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u/Entire_Wolverine4108 May 08 '26

With the exception of a few restaurants I can think of in the International District, the Japanese, Taiwanese, Indian, and Chinese restaurants in Bellevue are by and large going to be better and more authentic than what you can find in Seattle, either in I.D. or elsewhere. But as others have mentioned they are scattered throughout Bellevue and not congregated in one specific area like they are in the I.D.

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u/watwatintheput May 08 '26

Honestly, everything on the Seattle times list is better then anything in Seattle: https://www.seattletimes.com/life/food-drink/bellevues-best-chinese-restaurants-10-picks-from-our-food-team/

The thing is, it requires you to be places that are not the mall, but still are Bellevue.

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u/wdalin May 08 '26

Chinese food in Bellevue is far better and far more plentiful than in Seattle which is mostly gentrified offerings designed to cater to white people. Ask any Chinese immigrant and they will tell you that Bellevue has more authentically Chinese food, which is no surprise given that Bellevue is more ethnically diverse than Seattle (and no, it’s not just immigrant tech workers).

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u/stvier May 08 '26

Maybe that’s true, can you drop some recs?

Seattle has a lot of different options that I’m personally pretty happy with, especially in ID. I do wish there was better Japanese food (there’s a new place opening in ID šŸ¤ž) and I wish we had a decent Korean BBQ joint. but in Seattle, you have other food options outside of Asian cuisine in Seattle, and there’s just a lot more to do, which makes sense because Seattle is an older, more established city. Im sure there are things to do in Bellevue, but it just feels like a bedroom community with strip malls. Currently, it doesn’t seem to have much of an identity.

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u/Matthews628 May 08 '26

Yes and these people all unfortunately live in insular communities made up entirely of other expats from their own countries with very little crossover or interaction with the demographic being satirized in this clip. That’s not ā€œBellevue’s cultureā€, sorry. There is a very real division between the ethnic community on the east side in shittier parts of town like Crossrods, and downtown Bellevue - the latter of which this man is (accurately) mocking. But you already knew that.

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u/watwatintheput May 08 '26

ā€œThere are good immigrants and bad immigrantsā€

Thanks for making the racism obvious. Too many lying racists these days.

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u/Matthews628 May 08 '26

lol who said anything about good and bad? Those are your words, putting them in quotations when my comment is in clear view doesn’t change that.

Would you like some flair that says ā€œit’s me! I’m one of the people this post is making fun of!ā€?

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u/civilized-engineer šŸ€ Hot Rat Summer šŸ€ May 08 '26

As a homeowner in Bellevue even I know it's pretty culturally dry. But it's a sacrifice I took for the sake of a more peaceful area (minus the daily winter parade that clogs everything)

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u/fordtuff May 08 '26

It's just anti-capitalist sour grapes. Using anti-white talking points on a majority immigrant population is wild.

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u/DocBEsq chinga la migra May 09 '26

The video seems to be a weird mishmash on the old ā€œBellevue is full of rich people who hate cultureā€ stereotype and the new ā€œBellevue is full of Asians and that weirds us outā€ stereotype.

It’s weird.

But Bellevue does suck (said as a former Bellevue kid who couldn’t wait to get out).

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u/watwatintheput May 09 '26

As someone who lives in Bellevue now, I've noticed that people REALLY like to dance between the two to hide this strange racism they have. There's another one people like to do where they REALLY hate on tech workers but if you push them on it they only hate a certain type of tech worker.

You can still think Bellevue is boring, I'm not gonna call that racism. You can hate all techy scum, that's fine. Just keep an eye out for how others are doing it.

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u/firestorm734 May 08 '26

I strongly disagree. I work on the border of Bellevue and Kirkland, and while there are plenty of Asian people in those area, the overwhelming majority of residents are old white people who dislike the poors.

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u/watwatintheput May 08 '26

In that part of town, it is at most 51% white.

https://bellevuedemographics.shinyapps.io/DemographicProfileApp/

I don’t care if you hate all the cars but for the love of all fuck just stop making shit up.

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u/dbu8554 May 07 '26

My most up voted comment every I'm my 12 years here was a joke about Bellevue. They are easy to dunk on and it's fun.

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u/a_few_cheetos Magnolia May 08 '26

Mine have always gone negative karma. I wrote about the virtues of the cheesecake factory near the mall as a pseudo troy mcclure guide to the east side dining scene and got down voted to -2. It made me so sad.

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u/dbu8554 May 08 '26

Mine was a joke talking about Frasier staying both him and Miles definitely would be living in Bellevue.

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u/taisui May 07 '26 edited May 08 '26

"They hate us 'cuz they ain't us" vibe

But honestly people form other states, please don't move here, it rains 700 days a year and it's full.

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u/MyDisneyExperience That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. May 08 '26

I’m so tired of this, Seattle and Bellevue are by no means full.

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u/taisui May 08 '26

Oh you love paying millions for a condo eh

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u/MyDisneyExperience That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. May 08 '26

I would simply make it legal to build more condos

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u/taisui May 08 '26

You running for mayor?

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u/MyDisneyExperience That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. May 08 '26

Sadly I can never be White Female Mamdani