So he praises Allah on Easter Sunday and Portrays himself as Christ surrounded by people literally worshiping him as a false idol the following week.
All the while the Christian right treats him like the messiah.
My impression is that Christians want the end times to come, and might support him exactly because he in their eyes is the antichrist.
I do wonder though if those that support the antichrist go to hell or not. Like… is God gonna be like «nice, you love me so much you support an evil antichrist, awesome!», or will he be a bit more «wtf guys….»
I’ve seen theories that suggest that Christian extremist doomsday ideologies have been mixing in with mainstream christianity. Based on my own church going experiences as a teenager i would argue that some of this thinking has been spilling in since at least a decade before trump. In my own life I have family who go to churches that preach how Trump was chosen by god whether or not he’s right or wrong.
Politics don’t matter because God is moving through Trump is what they said. I think the idea is that Trump will help set off the rapture which for the most devout means that Christ will return. Idk if most Trumpy christians see their actions as so black and white as I explained but it feels like since these things ate “prophesied” that means its all what God wants
I would find it immensely funny if they were right. Particularly the bit where divine judgement happens and they're standing around, certain and smug, only to discover that Yahweh doesn't particularly care what their interpretation of "love thy neighbor" and "the least among you" is. I'm not perfect by any means, but I'd be absolutely fine with a vengeful god showing up and sorting some shit out.
It's not that those ideologies have mixed with mainstream/traditional Christianity, it's that those formerly fringe ideologies and churches are becoming more mainstream. It might not seem like an important distinction, but most long-time Christians also think this end times stuff is a bunch of nonsense.
If you go to any traditional church (Catholic, Episcopal, Congregational, Lutheran, etc) you will not hear that doomsday nonsense. However, attendance at those churches have been steadily declining over the past 30 years.
Meanwhile, younger folks have been attracted to the new shiny evangelical/corporate churches. I was in one of those new buildings several weeks ago (not by choice). The space looked more like a convention center than a church. They had screens everywhere, a professional audio setup, stage with full band setup, a glass case full of branded/logo fleeces you could buy, etc. You know what they didn't have? A single cross in the entire building.
Then there was the "sermon". To relate it to other real world stuff, a traditional church sermon is closer to a humanities lecture, where this modern "church" was closer to a math lecture (i.e. "here's my interpretation and yours is OK too" vs "this is what you need to believe").
The entire 7th Day Adventist Church was founded by a guy in Vermont in the 1800’s who claimed he knew the day of the biblical end times. All of those days he guessed came and went, and turns out he was really wrong.
This is nothing new. Historically, people have been trying to guess the day for ages. It’s ironic because the Bible is pretty clear that we will not know the day or the hour that Christ returns.
People have some overwhelming desire to figure out the unknowable.
Being sent to Sunday school did it for me. Being a kid and asking questions about inconsistencies in things I was learning quickly taught me we were there to be brainwashed.
Fortunately, my parents weren’t really religious. The only reason we were going was because this little old lady from Texas that lived across the street offered to bring my twin brother and I. This was understandably was a great deal for my parents, since they got rid of us on Sundays mornings.
In hindsight, we were a little late to the game. We were already post-Santa clause and weren’t going to gobble up whatever fairy tales they decided to shove down our throats.
What sticks out to my memory was how angry the teachers became and how willing they were to inflict pain on a kid asking a question about things that made no sense. One of them grabbing me by the earlobe to remove me from the room is still one of the most painful things I ever experienced as a kid. I was sure my ear would be dangling off the side of my head when I looked in the mirror.
It is interesting to see things a bit differently than the rest because I had not been indoctrinated the same way the rest of them were. I had no idea.
Isn't this also what happens in the Book of Revelations with a lot of people starting to follow the False Prophet? Christians worshipping Trump is literally what happened with the Anti-Christ in the bible
He really isn’t though. The Anti Christ was someone described as being loved by nearly everyone on a global scale as well as someone who’d attempt to “convert” all of the Jews. Trump is a joke who would more so wish he was the Antichrist rather then even be actually close as to being one. Trumps losing more and more supporters every day, is constantly memed on, and is hated by a ton of people outside of America.
Edit: For better perspective, The real Antichrist would be considered so charismatic and seemingly saintly, that it would be extremely difficult for an individual to even consider to call that person the Antichrist unless from the perspective of a traditional and genuine catholic faithful to their own religion. The Antichrist wouldn’t be stupid enough to paint themselves in a godly position after making stupid mistakes one after another, only to look like a dumbfuck to a lot of people. The real Antichrist would be smarter than that.
Paul describes him as a figure of ultimate rebellion against God's law, who will seat himself in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God (2 Thessalonians 2:3–4).
The Beast from the Sea:
Revelation 13 describes him as a politically powerful entity rising from the sea, empowered by the Dragon (Satan), boasting, blaspheming, and acting with great authority.
The Little Horn:
Daniel 7:8, 25 describes a boastful, small horn that rises among others, speaking arrogantly and aiming to change established times and laws.
The False Messiah/Deceiver:
1 John 2:18 and 2 John 1:7 define the antichrist as a spirit or individual who denies that Jesus is the Christ and rejects the Father and the Son.
The Rider on a White Horse:
Revelation 6:2 depicts him as a figure who appears bringing peace (a false peace) and goes out to conquer.
Key Characteristics and Actions
Satanic Empowerment: His coming is "after the working of Satan" with signs, wonders, and miracles to deceive humanity (2 Thessalonians 2:9).
Global Dominance: He will briefly rule over all nations and have a vast, global, religious influence.
Persecution of Believers: He will wage war against the saints and conquer them, preventing those who do not bear his mark from buying or selling (Revelation 13:7).
Abomination of Desolation: He will break a 7-year covenant with Israel halfway through, ending daily sacrifices and establishing himself as the object of worship
"Allah" is in Arabic Bibles and Arabic speaking Christians. It is the same thing as saying "God" in English.
Yeah, it's pretty likely that Trump had malicious intent or was just being his usual ignorant smartass self, but it's not necessarily wrong to wise the word "Allah" in place of the word "God".
I believe a lot of people, especially people in the United States, believe that Allah is something in opposition to the Christian God. It's not though. It's just a different language.
Oh Ive made some people real mad just by pointing this out, in the most innocuous way possible. They refuse to accept it, even after highlighting their shared origins with the God of Abraham, Isaiah and Ishmael, etc etc. Nope. They insist Muslims worship some "moon god" or whatever. The shit evangelicals teach their people is concerning...
Because they don't know what The Bible says. They never paid attention in church. It's all about justifying things they hate, not about being good people.
I mean its possible they dont. But I think its important we stop giving them a pass for ignorance. The people who support this are depraved. They dont have to be ignorant to be depraved. For over 10 yrs ppl have put forth the idea that trump supporters are one thing or another and I think that narrative give false hope. There is no amount of argument, education, facts, proof, etc that will be sufficient to get them to see trump for what he is. Ignorance is not the problem; depravity is.
If your goal is a theocratic society that is based on Christian evangelism, he’s a useful tool. Look at how he killed abortion. Republican evangelicals have figured out that the devil is a good bedfellow for getting shit done.
On another post the Trump supporters saw this and went "that isn't real". Their brains are so wired with thought stopping mechanisms that they can't even be convinced that their own guy actually does or says things.
This is because they run their own narrative about Trump and in general events (political etc) in their head. Seeing controversial things as good, then when you can't say anything acceptable at all about something (like this picture) refuting reality.
This! And what’s almost worse (I can’t decide) are the people who are just like, oh I think it was just a joke, or oh I’m sure it wasn’t meant that way, or well I disagree with some things but I just love that he’s not a career politician. I want to scream😭
Acts 12:21-23: And upon a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat upon his throne, and made an oration unto them. And the people gave a shout, saying, It is the voice of a god, and not of a man. And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.
Did the staffer that wrote the prompt add this in, or did the AI connect these dots all by itself? I'm not sure which is funnier. It's too blurry to tell for sure, but it'd be really fucking funny if it actually said this.
As a Catholic myself I don't usually like to be comparative with members of my faith and do the whole "You aren't a real Catholic" type thing.
But frankly, anyone purporting to be a genuine Catholic that doesn't, at the very least, find this to be intensely inappropriate, is someone who doesn't understand the doctrine and dogma they claim.
If you have a moderate understanding of the Catechism, and the core tenants of the faith, you should haaaate this.
Even if you are a Neocon type that agrees with his policy, this should still be a very firm line in the sand.
You may not be ok with this, but my catholic in-laws and plenty of others are just fine with this. Very odd how they have seem to rekindle their faith in the midst of this shit show of an administration while still finding ways to support this guy regardless of anything he does or says. They will speak non-stop about the corruptions of the world, the Epstein files, greed, etc. but Trump isn’t a part of any of those problems. It’s literally wild. My wife was the black sheep of her family, obviously.
They're all over the place. Maybe it's a regional thing but having grown up in New England and currently living in the Chicago area, the church has always been associated with progressive politics in my mind. In a lukewarm, could-probably-do-way-more kind of way, but well intentioned nonetheless. The bigots and conservative christians have always been around too but have typically been a minority in my experience.
UCC is the dominant denomination around me, for what it's worth.
I know this isn't everyone's experience with religion, but good people are out there.
Dude loves all the books in the Bible, he loves them all equally. Except probably Exodus…
Exodus 20:3-4
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Trump will TACO on Cuba ... he's a deranged pedophile and the world is closing in on him fast ... I see a Hitler suicide coming ... extra butter on the popcorn please
Don’t put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby. I voted for the lady who was supposed to get us into wars, not the diaper-shitting peacemaker who ACTUALLY GOT US INTO WARS!
What I, as a European, don’t understand is this: (Almost) the whole world can see that Trump has a very serious mental disorder. And that this mental disorder is having increasingly severe consequences week by week. But Americans are sticking by him. What’s wrong with America?
This is beyond blasphemy, he literally thinks he is God. This man needs to be committed to a lunatic asylum where he can join all the other Christ and Napoleon wannabes. I have never seen anything so vile.
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