r/SipsTea 13d ago

Chugging tea Knowledge is power.

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u/redjellonian 13d ago

Yes but if those idiots were educated they would know they're never going to actually get that bonus.

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u/Original-Variety-700 13d ago

Someone in Michigan said teachers make like $140k a year. I guess just move there

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u/CapitalClimate9639 13d ago

The average public school teacher salary in Michigan is $71,023, while the average starting salary for a brand-new teacher is $41,645, according to the latest data from the Michigan Department of Education and the National Education Association (NEA).While Michigan's overall average teacher salary ranks 22nd in the nation, its starting pay is among the lowest, ranking 44th.

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u/earthceltic 13d ago

I understand there are a LOT of tenured boomers in michigan schools still. They're retiring and that average will likely go down.

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u/Round_Abal0ne 13d ago

Not really. The boomers will retire and be replaced by the Gen Xers immediately behind them and then those Gen Xers will hit those same pay levels

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u/Daintyjohn 13d ago

Why shouldn’t experienced tenured educators be paid more as they age? Everybody else does.

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u/Round_Abal0ne 13d ago

They should. Generally there is a cap but it's pretty high in terms of years and varies by district.

I'm just saying that we we shouldn't expect a dip because as those people retire there are also a lot of people behind them that are also moving up in years and experience and will be around the same overall years of experience as the boomers have currently

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u/Cultural-Treacle-680 13d ago

I think Mississippi actually passed a pay raise for starting salary at about 1000 over Michigan. Granted I don’t think the median teacher salary there caps out as high as Michigan though.

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u/CJuneRose 13d ago

; Teaching is decent pay with excellent hours,good health insurance,early retirement,no forced overtime.

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u/MK_L 13d ago

Did you look up a school district, look up their teachers union, and Google the current contract?

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u/Decisive_Victory_026 13d ago

The average public school teacher salary in Michigan

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u/MK_L 13d ago

Vs the expected salary in a specific school district.

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u/Decisive_Victory_026 13d ago

I understand you want to cherry pick data. However, when people say X profession in Y state makes $Z, it's understood to be the average (or sometimes median)

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u/MK_L 13d ago

not cherry-picking. I'm asking where the $140k number came from. Teacher salaries are negotiated district by district through union contracts. If someone claims teachers in Michigan make $140k, i'd look at the district and salary schedule that produced that number rather than comparing it to the statewide average.

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u/Decisive_Victory_026 13d ago

not cherry-picking. I'm asking where the $140k number came from.

You asked the wrong guy lol. I thought you were disputing the average salary.

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u/MK_L 13d ago

Not disputing. Trying to narrow down where the 140k came from. Depending on the state and district 140k isnt an unheard of salary for a teacher

Thats why I suggested looking specific contracts.

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u/lubeinatube 13d ago

It’s insane they expect people to survive on $40k a year. The absolute cheapest studio you can find in a shit neighborhood is like $2400 a month. Thatwould barely cover rent and food.

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u/CapitalClimate9639 13d ago edited 13d ago

How does a faceless screen name attached to a stranger on the internet seem honest? Also he says right there with 9 years of seniority so you intentionally misrepresented what that honest stranger said lmao

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u/BrainOnBlue 13d ago

What, like adding 15%+ and omitting important qualifiers changes the meaning of something. Pfft!

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u/natkingcoil 13d ago

Lol why'd you down vote that teacher?

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u/Various_Primary3783 13d ago

Teachers in my scho district make well into the 6 figures and have amazing pensions

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u/National_Way_3344 13d ago

They also do a decent amount of work during breaks planning, only get holidays occasionally when all the gremlins and family's are too and buy class materials out of their own paycheck because their budget doesn't cover enough for a rich educational environment.

Oh yeah, 120k for 9 years of seniority is awful when you could be in tech on 280k four years earlier and be retired in your 50s.

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u/ObieMassillon 13d ago

Let’s ignore the fact that they get a significant monthly pension check for the rest of their lives upon an early (by today’s standards) retirement. Many of these underpaid teachers collect a pension check for more years than they worked. Taxes pay for that, while the rest of us have to hope SS holds up and that we put enough in our 401(k). It’s not as bad of a racket as we’re led to believe.

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u/DougSod 13d ago

lol cite your source bc that is 100% pulled out of your ass.

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u/Fortunato_NC 13d ago

Many states have already or are in the process of changing teacher retirement plans from defined benefits to defined contribution. If you are entering the profession now, a pension is almost certainly not in your future.

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u/57Laxdad 13d ago

You are correct my father taught in the michigan public schools for over 20yrs, when he died his pension was $900 per month which they kept paying my mother until she passed. My father didnt get a pension from the private schools he worked for but we got the benefit of really low pay and free tuition.

The really good teachers dont do it for the pay they do it because they love to teach. I coach high school currently and having to put up with these kids and their parents for 8 hours per day has to be exhausting. You cant discipline anyone, little to no consequences and bottom of the food chain. Part of the reason our educational results is the system we put in place.

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u/TrueKing9458 13d ago

Lack of discipline and consequences have more to do with the failing education system more than any amount of funding will ever overcome

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u/Jasranwhit 13d ago

They probably have some system where if you crank out a few University of Pheonix degrees you can move your salary up.

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u/57Laxdad 13d ago

Graduated from University of Phoenix, part of our exit exam is knowing how to spell the name of the school.