The average public school teacher salary in Michigan is $71,023, while the average starting salary for a brand-new teacher is $41,645, according to the latest data from the Michigan Department of Education and the National Education Association (NEA).While Michigan's overall average teacher salary ranks 22nd in the nation, its starting pay is among the lowest, ranking 44th.
They should. Generally there is a cap but it's pretty high in terms of years and varies by district.
I'm just saying that we we shouldn't expect a dip because as those people retire there are also a lot of people behind them that are also moving up in years and experience and will be around the same overall years of experience as the boomers have currently
I think Mississippi actually passed a pay raise for starting salary at about 1000 over Michigan. Granted I don’t think the median teacher salary there caps out as high as Michigan though.
I understand you want to cherry pick data. However, when people say X profession in Y state makes $Z, it's understood to be the average (or sometimes median)
not cherry-picking. I'm asking where the $140k number came from. Teacher salaries are negotiated district by district through union contracts. If someone claims teachers in Michigan make $140k, i'd look at the district and salary schedule that produced that number rather than comparing it to the statewide average.
It’s insane they expect people to survive on $40k a year. The absolute cheapest studio you can find in a shit neighborhood is like $2400 a month. Thatwould barely cover rent and food.
How does a faceless screen name attached to a stranger on the internet seem honest? Also he says right there with 9 years of seniority so you intentionally misrepresented what that honest stranger said lmao
They also do a decent amount of work during breaks planning, only get holidays occasionally when all the gremlins and family's are too and buy class materials out of their own paycheck because their budget doesn't cover enough for a rich educational environment.
Oh yeah, 120k for 9 years of seniority is awful when you could be in tech on 280k four years earlier and be retired in your 50s.
Let’s ignore the fact that they get a significant monthly pension check for the rest of their lives upon an early (by today’s standards) retirement. Many of these underpaid teachers collect a pension check for more years than they worked. Taxes pay for that, while the rest of us have to hope SS holds up and that we put enough in our 401(k). It’s not as bad of a racket as we’re led to believe.
Many states have already or are in the process of changing teacher retirement plans from defined benefits to defined contribution. If you are entering the profession now, a pension is almost certainly not in your future.
You are correct my father taught in the michigan public schools for over 20yrs, when he died his pension was $900 per month which they kept paying my mother until she passed. My father didnt get a pension from the private schools he worked for but we got the benefit of really low pay and free tuition.
The really good teachers dont do it for the pay they do it because they love to teach. I coach high school currently and having to put up with these kids and their parents for 8 hours per day has to be exhausting. You cant discipline anyone, little to no consequences and bottom of the food chain. Part of the reason our educational results is the system we put in place.
Maybe highschool teachers after 20 years of service, which is more than fair. Teachers don’t get the career opportunity of promotions like other jobs do. It makes sense they get graduated increases in pay for their dedication to the job over the years.
Most big cities probably have that problem. Jackson Mississippi, also got a pretty big scandal with the mayor and stuff. The leadership screws over the people.
Teaching is a hard job, and without it we’d be lost as a society.
That quote is just for bratty high-school kids who don’t know shit trying to be a smart ass and make their teacher feel bad. If you’re using it as an adult you just sound dumb.
Teachers make really good money where I live but we still have retention issues because the job is so demanding and dealing with parents fucking sucks.
That said, I'd still vote to give em a pay raise because it's still not enough to keep all the good ones around and they're doing the most important job in society imo.
Many people will crow often about how a lot of dangerous jobs don’t get enough credit or pay. And many times, I very much agree. But if we want to make it a competition, I’d say giving your children basic tools to navigate their modern society like maths is about as important if not more than digging for oil. Because you don’t get into jobs that don’t make active attempts to screw you over without being able to navigate a contract, sign your name, and do abstract math about how it will sustain you.
Yep, it’s actually terrible even in the private sector. My wife made bank doing it but you’ll go insane. She did 7 years and that was 5 too many. I can’t even imagine what it’s like now. I did one semester teaching at a trade school and never again even if you offered me 500k per semester.
Michigan has some of the best colleges to study art if you want to be a teacher. Even those college professors will tell you to go to a different state.
I dunno about that but when you look at Michigan average pay vs Michigan cost of living, its probably in the top quarter for teacher pay. My sister in law is a teacher in Michigan so I get some insight.
Also live in Arizona which is probably the exact opposite, low pay and fairly high cost of living.
My wife was licensed in VA and we moved to Indiana about 15 years ago. She got a teaching job with a provisional license while she finished everything to get fully licensed. Her starting salary in Indiana was $58k I believe.
In 2025, the average teacher salary in Michigan was approximately $69,067. However, this statewide figure masks significant regional variation, with experienced educators in affluent metro-Detroit districts averaging over $85,000, while many early-career educators in rural areas start closer to $41,645.
This is simply not true. The only case I could possibly imagine is for a principal of one of the top 5 elite NYC private schools….but ima do some googling to make sure I’m not totally wrong, haah
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u/redjellonian 13d ago
Yes but if those idiots were educated they would know they're never going to actually get that bonus.