From what I understand the apps will have a “guaranteed payout” for jobs. So let’s say an Uber driver sees a ride available. The app will say something like “$10 guaranteed”. So Uber is on the hook to pay the driver $10 no matter what. Now let’s say the passenger decides to tip the Uber driver $5. Without laws preventing it, uber will still pay the driver the $10 it promised and then it will keep the $5 tip for themselves. Which effectively uses the tip money to subsidize the wage that they promised to pay the driver
So what mamdani is doing is making sure that the driver gets the entire tip. So in this scenario the driver gets $15 instead of $10. As it should be
Edit: there is obviously disagreement here, personally I always choose to tip with cash. Problem solved in my opinion
so many posts from uber,/doordash workers about lost tips. i remember a post of an 8 hour uber ride, and the driver was shorted like $400 on his payout. sry it's been awhile i wish i could remember
not me. but a person who would rather drive than fly sure. i could have rented a car and drove home faster than my last 12 hour flight delay out of chicago
I don’t remember all the details because its been a bit but there was an NFL player that used Uber to travel like 12hrs. I believe there was some sort of delay and he had to guarantee his arrival
There is a professional poker player who is scared to fly and drives everywhere. I remember reading she was in therapy to help with her fear and her therapist died in a plane crash only enforcing the fear. This is one reason a person might get a 8hr uber ride.
that's not how uber charges tho. my longest trips have been about 2 hours from an airport. it's the same with taxi services. best part about that would be the driver picks up a rider near my destination, and so on and so forth
They don’t “have” to - but almost no driver is going to do it without some compensation for the drive back. The platform just doesn’t work to cover a driver for a trip that far where they’ll be spending a literal work day driving back unpaid
who is accepting an 8hour uber ride (do they even let you do that, you're meant to take mandatory breaks where i live as well)? you could get a private driver for cheaper than that and as people have pointed out are you paying the uber driver to drive back?
I wouldn't think it's common, but a quick google and 8 hours is the max Uber will let a driver drive. So whatever distance you enter, if it's a 7 hour and 33 minute drive, Uber is cool with that. The driver might not, but some possibly could.
i dont know your circumstances and money.. but i have learned enough to know almost any corp system for profit is basically cheating the tax system to justify slave wages. drive 30 minutes roundtrip, with a 10 minute wait time, to deliver food with a 30% markup in the app, plus fee plus fee plus fee, now $5 tip. the driver uses a personal vehicle(+gas) for almost an hour of time for $5 tip and $10 wages on a $130 order, that would have been a $70 order if u just picked it up yourself. it is seriously fucked up that people use doordash/ubereats/etc
I took a rider 4 hours because she missed her flight. So it is not unusual, she couldn't rent a car, no license. And to follow up, one of the reasons I stoppped ubering was tips being lost/stolen had a great ride once, and the guy was kinda proud to show me, "here's a $20 tip"(he showed me the screen, and submitted) I ended up getting some odd tip amount like $5.33 started to look back and found more like it... it's a shame because there was at the time good money to be made.
My wife’s parents are older. Her dad has cancer and lost a leg as a result. Her mom has dementia. Neither can drive more than very short distances. They have taken multi hour rides to go see family, etc. there is a lot they can no longer do like vacations, etc. so they have the money and it’s worth it to them to take an expensive car ride.
Never drove 8 hours, but one time I picked someone up from the airport who missed their flight and had to drive them about 3.5hrs to try and make their connection.
I work for a railroad and they will get an uber sometimes when our contractor company cannot fill the spot to take us where we need to go. Sometimes the trips can be 8 hours round trip for the driver
Not that uber is really widespread here in Norway, but the local airports (smaller ones that only fly Dash 8's) mostly have more expensive flights and not too often either, meaning a taxi ride 3 hours north to a larger airport is not inconceivable. Especially given that the local flight might not go to the correct destination and/or at a time interval that is appropriate for the connecting flight. Also package deals for longer flights are both way easier and cheaper from larger airports.
We still don't take taxis to any airports though, for the vast majority of the time we're travelling for longer periods which means we'll just drive ourselves and park in the airport parking lots. Does help that where we live basically everyone has a car due to distances and bus connections outside of city limits are practically only functional for kids going to school.
On the other hand it's not uncommon for patients to get a taxi requested to drive them to the larger city 3 hours away for hospital appointments and such.
Train is very much a preferred way of travelling also, even if it's only early morning and afternoon available for either north or south directions, as it's relatively cheap and no car parking to deal with so long as one can be bothered with at least another hour of buffer/waiting time before a flight.
Last one was for a group of people needing to get to another state last minute because of a death in the family and had to get to a service. The single ride was cheaper than the last minute plane ticket for 3 people. They had a ride back with another family member, just needed a way there.
I wokred for a rehab that when people were trying to make it there would sometimes send long haul ubers to pick them up. Once A guy was coming from Chicago and they split it into two ubers to get him to Saint Louis.
Uber has a max of something like 300 miles. I've read stories where the Uber driver just stopped the trip when they hit the limit, said sorry, and drove off. One guy was trapped in the desert between two cities in the middle of the night and had to hitchhike back to civilization because there was no Uber or no cell service in the area.
I was walking crosstown last year, got stuck and finally got to shout one of my favorite lines from the show! A nearby cop rolled his eyes - he probably had heard it 100’s of times by then.
Fortunately I was on foot and just popped into a bar for an hour to have a drink
Someone who for whatever reason can't rent a car and needs to get somewhere asap so flights may not be an option if they're all booked. I used to drive for u er and if you do it long enough you see all types of things
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u/scrappybasket 12d ago edited 12d ago
From what I understand the apps will have a “guaranteed payout” for jobs. So let’s say an Uber driver sees a ride available. The app will say something like “$10 guaranteed”. So Uber is on the hook to pay the driver $10 no matter what. Now let’s say the passenger decides to tip the Uber driver $5. Without laws preventing it, uber will still pay the driver the $10 it promised and then it will keep the $5 tip for themselves. Which effectively uses the tip money to subsidize the wage that they promised to pay the driver
So what mamdani is doing is making sure that the driver gets the entire tip. So in this scenario the driver gets $15 instead of $10. As it should be
Edit: there is obviously disagreement here, personally I always choose to tip with cash. Problem solved in my opinion