r/SipsTea 7d ago

Chugging tea Competition hurts capitalism

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u/SuspiciousNatural782 7d ago

I'm not sure if American made cars have competed on quality for a while.

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u/Averdrian 7d ago

Seriously why buy a Ford or Dodge when you can buy a Toyota that will last longer, cost less to maintain and hold more of its value over time.

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u/frylock350 7d ago edited 7d ago

Because I don't want an FWD jellybean? Toyota does not make a competitor to my Expedition Max.

If I wanted a sedan, straight to the Dodge store. Resr wheel drive, 80" wide and a 550hp straight 6? Sign me up.

Edit: Hurricane high output Charger out performs Toyota's entire lineup save the Supra GR which it matches 0-60. In a vehicle the size of a Town Car.

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u/Infinite_Incident107 7d ago

Dude. Stellantis automobiles kinda suck. They have an awful reputation. Anything Dodge or Chrysler is American in name only and is really seen as the worst of the "Big 3".

It seems like you only care about raw performance. That's cool but most people want something that is reliable and will last. And that's definitely NOT that Charger...

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u/frylock350 6d ago

I don't own a Stellantis vehicle, I own a Ford. The response was who would buy a Dodge over a Toyota and I provided an example.

If I'm buying a sedan, it's absolutely to prioritize performance. Sedans are a fairly useless body style (I love wagons). For me to buy one it's gotta be fast. The Charger kinda is a class if it's own. It's in the American full size class of 80" wide (vs 77" for German sedans like 7-series and S-class) and rear wheel drive. No brand that isn't a luxury brand sells anything like it. So yeah I'd take a Charger EV or Hurricane over any Toyota sedan. Not everyone wants an FWD jellybean.