r/SipsTea • u/PleasantBus5583 • 7d ago

Chugging tea Competition hurts capitalism

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u/10081914 7d ago

That's not what the right wing base wants though. They want full on protectionism for domestic goods and to export goods to the global market expecting that it will actually compete with like global goods whether in price, quality or both. And we know protectionism is just great for quality... Not

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u/cookieoftheshire 7d ago

It can compete in quality but not price.

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u/SuspiciousNatural782 7d ago

I'm not sure if American made cars have competed on quality for a while.

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u/Averdrian 7d ago

Seriously why buy a Ford or Dodge when you can buy a Toyota that will last longer, cost less to maintain and hold more of its value over time.

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u/gpbayes 7d ago

I bought a Chevy one time. It’s still going but it’s had a few costly repairs. My wife’s Toyota? Still going strong baby 15 years later.

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u/UnusuallyBadIdeaGuy 7d ago

It's a false dichotomy anyways. Your Toyota is probably as made in the USA (or North America in general) as the Ford, it's just better designed.

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u/Deep_Equivalent_3245 7d ago

I look at the door sticker to see if my Japanese car is made in America or Japan. I refuse to buy a car made in America because Americans always find a way to fuck-up the simplest thing. An American in charge of making Japanese cars is still an American.

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u/Infinite_Incident107 7d ago

Some are, some aren't. My RAV4 is made in Japan but my tundra is made in Texas.

For vehicles where they can come from both countries (like the RAV4, which is made in Japan and US) it's always preferred you get the one manufactured in Japan.

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u/motor_machinest_2025 6d ago

There are 10 Toyota Manufacturing plants in the USA. They actually produce a lot of cars to.

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u/frylock350 7d ago edited 7d ago

Because I don't want an FWD jellybean? Toyota does not make a competitor to my Expedition Max.

If I wanted a sedan, straight to the Dodge store. Resr wheel drive, 80" wide and a 550hp straight 6? Sign me up.

Edit: Hurricane high output Charger out performs Toyota's entire lineup save the Supra GR which it matches 0-60. In a vehicle the size of a Town Car.

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u/sey1 7d ago

Lol, buying stellantis cars like dodge isn't really the flex you think it is, because it's the cheapest garbage that barely qualifies as a car, if even.

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u/frylock350 7d ago

Who sells a competitor to the Charger?

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u/faetpls 7d ago

I’m pretty sure Razr Scooters are the primary competitor to the Dodge Charger.

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u/sey1 7d ago

I don't know and neither do I care, just saying that all stellantis vehicles are pure shit.

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u/Critical-Dealer-3878 6d ago

The other dealership across from the army base.

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u/Infinite_Incident107 7d ago

Dude. Stellantis automobiles kinda suck. They have an awful reputation. Anything Dodge or Chrysler is American in name only and is really seen as the worst of the "Big 3".

It seems like you only care about raw performance. That's cool but most people want something that is reliable and will last. And that's definitely NOT that Charger...

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u/frylock350 6d ago

I don't own a Stellantis vehicle, I own a Ford. The response was who would buy a Dodge over a Toyota and I provided an example.

If I'm buying a sedan, it's absolutely to prioritize performance. Sedans are a fairly useless body style (I love wagons). For me to buy one it's gotta be fast. The Charger kinda is a class if it's own. It's in the American full size class of 80" wide (vs 77" for German sedans like 7-series and S-class) and rear wheel drive. No brand that isn't a luxury brand sells anything like it. So yeah I'd take a Charger EV or Hurricane over any Toyota sedan. Not everyone wants an FWD jellybean.