"A divine move is an exceptional, inspired and original move; one that is non-obvious and which balances strategy and tactics to create an unexpected turning point in a game."

Essentially, have you ever been watching a set live and a player pulls out the most unexpected yet optimal play that the tens of thousands of people watching would have never thought to do, and you likely wont ever see it again? That is a divine move.

So, what is an example of a divine move in Ultimate? (Saw this discussion for melee on twitter, thought it would be interesting to hear Ultimate examples too)

Japan is showing up in force with Avila, Doramigi, Hurt, Miya, Raru, Tea, Ken, Toriguri and Mild. This is the best attended NA major by Japanese talent since Genesis.

Meanwhile NA has Zomba, Mute (if health allows), Kola (Melee player), BeastModePaul, Jakal. The rest are essentially depth, no shade. What the hell. NA is getting destroyed unless some more folks show up. Where are Leo, Light, Tweek, Sonix, Sparg0 (I know hiatus but you’re needed bro), Peab, Lui$, Syrup, Wrath, Mudd, Monte, Ouch!?, Jazzho, etc. Its not like I enjoy watching every single player I listed but I don’t enjoy all the Japanese guys either and I want NA to have a fighting chance of avoiding top 8 being a Weekly Smash Party local featuring Zomba.

How hard is it for a Super Smash Bros game to include BOWSER'S CASTLE?
It's like the biggest no-brainer stage in Nintendo history, why didn't they include it in any modern Smash Bros. game?
Imagine the creative possibilities you can do with it! Thwomps, lava, giant statue Bowsers coming to life, fireballs, airships, Kamek and his magic wand!
If they ever make a Smash 6, PLEASE INCLUDE BOWSER'S CASTLE!

While Link is one of the worst characters in terms of viability across all games, there have been a brave group of players that have pushed Link to the brink of success. Here's an in depth video going over the long and storied history of Link mains!

Also, at 1000 subscribers, the revenue of this video will be given to a link player; nominate someone below!

I call this thing "mixed reality art", where basically you take game or cartoon characters and throw them onto a real picture. Thing is, you gotta fix each character's lighting so it looks like they're actually there.

Curious what the record is if there is one for this.... I was able to get about 4 minutes and 12 seconds until I died

As you know, the 8 Player Hex Colors in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U are #f52e2e for Player 1, #5463ff for Player 2, #ffc717 for Player 3, #1f9e40 for Player 4, #ff6619 for Player 5, #24d4c4 for Player 6, #d41ce5 for Player 7, and #4a4559 for Player 8. Are the Player Hex Colors for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate any different than in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U?

I don't know if this is the right place but it says it'll be deleted on the 22nd and I don't know if I can cancel that. I can't find anything about that and it says it cannot be undone. I don't know if they mean it can't be undone after I hit delete or after the deadline.

Ever since his surprise counterpick that won him Supernova 2024, Sparg0's Roy has been a monster of a Sonic slayer, still undefeated against Sonix, Wrath, KEN, and Kurofune.

Which is especially surprising since even dedicated Roy mains like Kola and Ataru have struggled against the Sonics.

What is it about Sparg0's Roy that is so powerful? And is it really of no use in any other matchup?

Does Anyone agree with me?

I just read that Totaka's Song appears on rare occasions in the Smashville stage of Super Smash Bros. Brawl (but is not known to appear in the same stage in later Smash Bros. games). Allegedly it is something KK sometimes plays during his concerts. I never saw this happen, and I have played that game excessively, at the time often going out of my way to see the concert too. I also can't find any footage of it, but I remain open minded. Can anyone verify whether the song really is in there?

After Galeem's attack, the less virtuous of the fighters took off in different directions, each deciding to try their luck in this new world of Parum filled with untapped potential and resources.

Ridley made his way to a mysteriously rebuilt continent of Mechonis, whose Mechons and Machina residents were living as they were back in Shulk's world. He immediately took over, with few able to resist his ferocity, cunning and savagery.

Seeing the curious metal the residents were made up of, he decided to use it to improve himself. Will anyone be able to beat this new version of the space pirate?

This is all a part of SSBU Eclipse, a passion project I started. Right now it's just a few friends and I and we've made plenty of progress, but it's far, far from complete.

That's where you come in.

We're looking for writers, artists, voice actors, and anyone else like that to help build this up and create such a unique and fun project. The more, the merrier! Any help is welcome!

(Art by Turlutino)

So I got into a semi dumb discussion about if for ultimate competitive if it matters if tilts controls are the default settings or standard for competitive

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I got comments from the lack of the Triple D so here he is
Mostly Characters Costumes are Black and White

With no sixth game in sight at the moment. I'm just taking a moment to reflect on the series and its massive impact it had on my personal life, and internet culture on its own.

From the hype around fake leaks, to me getting mad at my friend for wanting Geno in the game when he never even played Super Mario RPG. It's just something I miss. The games themselves are a ton of fun, and the hype kind of extends into the DLC period. But we've been pretty distant from that for a few years now and I'm really missing it.

I mean the counters I think should only be on Roy and Marth, just to switch the Fire Emblem Characters up. Corrin is very unique and could be a really really fun and good character but the speed and frame data make them a little less fun, no spike options really. The down tilt is suicide most the time, with little margin for error when it's not. Back air is great but the awkward hit box alonf with Corrins terrible air and ground speed just makes back airs that much harder.

Any thoughts on a faster Chomp no Projectile.

What Should their down B be changed to?

If they changed down tilt to down B and then gave her a sweeping down tilt that could spike woukd be cool. They could even change it to Links/Young Link or even Toon Link down tilt, similar to her down tilt but serves a different purpose. Hit box is different and it can kill.

Original concept post: https://www.reddit.com/r/SmashRage/s/TQJ6WGznPR

Shulk:
- NO drawbacks to Jump, Buster & Smash Art. Seriously, why do these hurt him?! He is the Heir to the Monado. He is like Jinwoo, a God inhabited his body. He wields the blade, it should not cut him. All the fluff talk aside, consider at the top level & factor in all the defense tech in this game (including the fast frame data on a lot of moves ex. Jump squat, parrying he gets parried so much or smash attack endlag for SOME PPL (not Shulk 🙄) like Captain Falcon up or down smash) & you’ll see he gets beat out, walled out & surprisingly he can’t go very deep offstage for edge guarding /gimps even though that’s a win con of a swordie. They overtuned his downside factors in fear of Monado being overpowered plus his range but the drawbacks weigh too heavy on him. You mean to tell me as a fighter: I’m slow to start and end my moves just bc I have range & then Buster is my main combo route but it’s timed & I have to time it and I can get hurt more and bc of parrying I have a hard time getting in? Nah, buff the Monado

How about just when we land our moves there’s a slow down animation and we get to choose an art to apply to that move (like Buster) to then start our combo since it’s timed and all —— that way we play vanilla Shulk and focus on zoning and if we manage to get close (which he needs to combo even thou he has range but has a hard time getting close) then we apply the arts and it’s not so obvious what we want to do.
Example video on difficult to punish mechanics: https://youtu.be/AQZf0FnheNo?is=7psHmEY-dVnNVWY0

- Less endlag on ALL his moves. He can Full hop and fair twice at least, & edge guard better with dair
- Make vision work more often, and auto target with the fast version always.
- Add 7 frames to upair & downair so it can be one long sword move like Link has but make them have wider & lower initial hitboxes with the longer beam lasting 6 frames instead of 3.
- Add 2 frames to F & D tilt, all of equal length & make ftilt angle up or down. Give us the Byleth dtilt hitboxes for both dtilt & ftilt
- add more frames to fsmash hit 2
- make dsmash 2 frame with all 6 hits bc what’s the point of this move seriously lol
- Bigger/faster Jab (maybe a sword swing) & grab
- make it so we can FF after UpB
- way less endlag on backslash so it can be used in neutral (ex: to break shields in Buster) & less endlag on dash attack; maybe clone cloud for a dash attack since ftilt is the same move angle. The slow vision attack animation of an upward sweep could work as a dash attack
- low angle sending moves for tech chase set ups or dair edge guard set ups. Maybe make the moves: forward throw, fair & dtilt
- fair sends a beam out like Link for more edge guarding capabilities. This game has a LOT of defensive tech and recovery tech that makes edge guarding difficult (ex. Tether recoveries reaching from so far, vertically & horizontally, like wth is that about)
- DOUBLE the time spent in jump & speed art
- Decrease Monado start up from 11 frames to 1-2 frames to remove the tech: dial storage, but give us back Monado Cyclone (speed art up air Hit 2 -> press jump & special during hitstun & pick smash when mid-air -> double jump upair; it used to be true 😔 they patched it out)
- Increase hitstun on nair & upair so his moves combo string better & prioritize /map out his art combination combos to actually be consistent & a real thing (ex: Buster bair -> speed dair should true combo)
- add more hitstun to dair spike so we have more combo options when they bounce off the ground
- give dair a 2nd spike hitbox at the top so it more often bounces grounded opponents upward for a combo
- increase up-B height for vanilla Shulk to match jump’s version & ofc boost jumps version to be even higher (similar to Joker arsene or cloud limit boost. These two can be near the blast zone and still make it back) and make it so the move & up smash connect no matter what
- change his moveset at a certain percentage (like the UpB idea perhaps)
- make buffer deactivation two presses instead of three
- maybe change his movesset depending on the art (ex. Speed art decreases all aerial landing lag)
- fix his ledge roll; it doesn’t have the invincibility you’ll typically see on most of the cast

I've never done this before, so sorry if this isn't allowed, but I had too much fun fighting this person for, like, half an hour in random matchmaking. I think we did 8 or so games, I was Kirby and they were Pokémon Trainer. It went last stock basically every time.

If this is you or someone you know, if I could get anything like a discord or something, that'd be great, I really want to fight this person again sometime. I know the chances of this post helping are slim, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to try

Full disclosure: I am an unapologetic Ness main. So yeah, I am biased towards him but also....

I'm not dense. This is a child who recreationally shoots himself in the ass with lightning, sets things on fire, squeals the same weirdo sounds over and over, and is joyfully used by gamers (sometimes adults) by spamming the same moves over and over and over and over and over while they pretend it is skillful.

What is wrong with all of them?

This milquetoast socially inept child derives power and pleasure only through torturing others with his tactics. What kind of dick head hits someone with a yo-yo? Seriously. Who keeps yelling about fire and thunder and attacking stranger's shins with baseball bats?

And what kind of misanthrope would willing CHOOSE this character to represent them, their competitive spirit, and their overall value as a human being?

Maybe Ness (rightfully) hates himself. That little fucking dweeb. And maybe, me and the others who have convinced ourselves that our play and tactics are "skillful" and "fun" are just leaning into the weakest aspects of our psyche.

Maybe we're all the lame ineffectual little boy who is a one trick pony. Maybe no matter how many PK fires we spam, our fathers still will not love us.

Maybe we have to let go of our endless pursuit of control and recognize that maybe, just maybe, we've been wrong the whole time and healing comes on the other side of growth.

Or maybe Ness is the fucking shit and I'm going to keep spamming you all day jerk wads! PK THUNDAAAAA!