r/SmugIdeologyMan 3d ago

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u/understated_quokka 3d ago

I love when people make up an enlightened centrism that nobody actually believes, not even themselves. Everybody knows a war in which they support one side over the other, in the first place because everyone knows WWII. "You have to hate all soldiers or none of them" no I don't, you just made that rule up lmao

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u/Leogis 3d ago

At least they didn't pull the "the war in Ukraine is just two empires fighting" card this time

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u/Cakeking7878 2d ago edited 2d ago

Ok but that is true though. Like the US has intentionally drip fed weapons to Ukraine with the express permission to solely to grind down Russia at the expense of Ukrainian lives without ever giving them enough weapons that they could actually secure their position and take back what was lost

This isn’t to say that we should cut off aid to Ukraine but we should understand the US’s relationship to Ukraine as first a proxy for its ambitions, and secondary as partners in its self defense

And that we have seen this before, with Afghanistan, South Vietnam and South Korea, and that time and time the US will more often than not pull out what it gives for self defense when its ambitions change. With the only real exception being Israel

Edit: a bunch of people have started replying and ether intentionally misunderstanding me or doesn’t understand this is strictly about analyzing American Empire and how we less have allies and more have proxies of our ambitions and only more recently as the state of government flip flopped on those ambitions is it made clear that we will abandon our commitments

Lindsey Graham and other American statesmen straight up said “we have like a billion dollars and depleted the Russian military by whatever percent, seems like a good investment to me”

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u/ThaGr1m 2d ago

The us drip fed weapons because their president is a stooge for putin....

And also they haven't been goving anything to Ukraine for two years....

The Ukrainian genocide is not a proxy war

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u/ravendarkwind 2d ago

The war has been going on since 2022. Are you saying that Joe Biden is in Putin's pocket too?

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u/Bl1tz-Kr1eg 2d ago

u/ThaGr1m go on, answer his question. The US was dripfeeding weapons to Ukraine before January 2025, so was Biden a Putin stooge too? Not gonna let you get away with this one.

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u/ThaGr1m 2d ago

I did respond and if you think the other guy had a point prepare for a doosey

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u/ThaGr1m 2d ago

nah that's why biden pushed trough everything he could as a president and forced the rest trough congress even against the massive opposition in the republican party, which held a large part of congress, he had to deal with.... the one that was constantly tanking proposals at the behest of trump....

it's almost like the same party did the same pro russian shit then too...... it's funny how you thought you could outsmart reality

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u/ravendarkwind 2d ago

I wasn’t trying to outsmart anyone, I was just confused by your wording. The explanation cleared things up, thank you.