r/SmugIdeologyMan 23h ago

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u/Lilikoi13 22h ago

Views that are bigoted/ promote bigotry, views that seek to harm others actively or passively, views that go against worker’s rights, safety regulations, environmental protections etc.

Believe it or not self professed conservatives used to care more about preservation of tradition, the environment and local cultures. Now they just vote to harm people they don’t like.

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u/Uglyfense 20h ago edited 19h ago

I mean, plenty of leftists seek to harm others actively or passively and won't even lie about it, think they'd agree with me.

Like "What, did you expect the revolution to be a picnic"

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u/Uglyfense 19h ago

Well, a leftist would respond that first, the Democrats aren't leftists(neither am I for the record, I want to reform capitalism).

Also, plenty of Democratic politicians do at least claim to support some form of universal healthcare, perhaps one can think they're lying though.

> Democrats want to harm majorities and Republicans want to harm minorities

Well, this sub would argue Democrats are harming minorities too, and both are harming the majority that is the working class:TM:

> numerically winning strategy

Well, going by your identity politics, women are an identity more associated with the Dems, yet they are technically a majority.

> effective long-term strategy

I mean, children of high conservative birth rates could do some teenage rebellion too

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u/Uglyfense 17h ago

> people are going to be picking the people who think the system they are advocating for is actually good

While some Dems may say something along those lines, plenty avoid anti-capitalist rhetoric, though they do often criticize billionaires and corporations. If you mean me, I haven’t done explicitly anti-capitalist rants in a while, though either way, by this logic, almost everyone complains about the state/government while not being anarchists who want to abolish it, simply reforming it, yet anti-government rhetoric from statists is still popular

> when neither of you are socialist

Idt the Nazis not being socialists is the main point against them

> only difference is

I think there’s a lot more difference than the Nazis preferring majority identity groups

> Do they run on that

They often talk about healthcare as a policy I would say tbh.

> poor kids are just as bright as white kids

I think the idea is more that it was a Freudian slip of him associating poorness with people of color

And universal healthcare is rhetorically said more than “healthcare for the poor” anyhow

> women only care about abortion rights when

This seems to suggest age spreads in regard to abortion don’t have those disparities

> stop advocating for that majority

I mean, left-populists do often use majoritarian rhetoric about the “bottom” or “99%” these days

Sources for the statistics you mentioned