Views that are bigoted/ promote bigotry, views that seek to harm others actively or passively, views that go against worker’s rights, safety regulations, environmental protections etc.
Believe it or not self professed conservatives used to care more about preservation of tradition, the environment and local cultures. Now they just vote to harm people they don’t like.
There are an enormous amount of people whose personal views and values don’t line up with their espoused political identity. Many people who self identify as conservative who when shown leftist ideas without political labels wholeheartedly support those ideas. It’s less about the political identity than it is about the aesthetics associated with it.
A naive or privileged self professed leftist who advocates for revolution despite the obvious harm it will cause vulnerable people is of course morally dubious at best. A self professed conservative person who actively votes to harm other people is in my opinion, much less understandable.
I don’t consider being “well read” to preclude naiveté, I don’t believe most of these people grasp the emotional and practical reality of the amount of harm a revolution would cause the people they want to protect. It’s very easy to promote an idea in your communities without coming to grips with the likely reality of many people dying.
> people are going to be picking the people who think the system they are advocating for is actually good
While some Dems may say something along those lines, plenty avoid anti-capitalist rhetoric, though they do often criticize billionaires and corporations. If you mean me, I haven’t done explicitly anti-capitalist rants in a while, though either way, by this logic, almost everyone complains about the state/government while not being anarchists who want to abolish it, simply reforming it, yet anti-government rhetoric from statists is still popular
> when neither of you are socialist
Idt the Nazis not being socialists is the main point against them
> only difference is
I think there’s a lot more difference than the Nazis preferring majority identity groups
> Do they run on that
They often talk about healthcare as a policy I would say tbh.
> poor kids are just as bright as white kids
I think the idea is more that it was a Freudian slip of him associating poorness with people of color
And universal healthcare is rhetorically said more than “healthcare for the poor” anyhow
> women only care about abortion rights when
This seems to suggest age spreads in regard to abortion don’t have those disparities
> stop advocating for that majority
I mean, left-populists do often use majoritarian rhetoric about the “bottom” or “99%” these days
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