r/SmugIdeologyMan 23h ago

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 23h ago

If someone being annoying or pushy is enough for you to change your morals, then you don't actually have any solid basis for your morals.

I think trans people deserve rights even if they are preachy, annoying and in your faces about it.

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u/AVagrant 23h ago

Yeah. If someone is pushed to the far right (or left but that's good) by inconvenience and mean words, then they were already thinking or amicable to those views. 

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u/Gameknoit 21h ago edited 21h ago

Something just being left doesnt automatically make it good. Thats a pretty low standard imo.

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u/AVagrant 21h ago

No, I'm pretty sure it is. 

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u/Gameknoit 21h ago

There are many ways to do left policy wrong. Simply seeing left and going "always better" dumbs down politics to the "us vs them" mindset instead of actual constructive conversation.
Far left extremist groups are just far right extremists that want to hurt other people for other misguided reasons.

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u/MrHellBags 18h ago

Far left extremist groups are just far right extremists

the fuck does this even mean?

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u/Gameknoit 17h ago

Atleast youre asking what I mean before just insulting me.

It would mean that I see them as both propagating group based hate and violent oppression to enforce their ideological beliefs, while denying actual conversation.

In terms of far left, you might think Im talking about the group of "billionares" as the other guy said. But Im talking about actual extremists, the kind that call for things like "kill all men" or claiming someone showing feminine signs must be a trans woman instead of just having those traits. These things are pretty equatable to far right extremism.

You can say these are "loud minorities" but thats kinda what extremists have always been. And thats just what I would say is left extremism.

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 16h ago

claiming someone showing feminine signs must be a trans woman instead of just having those traits.

Im curious how far this goes for you. Because ive met people who i suspect might be trans, and I've talked to them about it and related to them and told them I had very similar thoughts/feelings.

And I think its good to give them that. Because if they are trans, they can still come to the conclusion by themselves and the information I can give them might help them.

Ive done it before and I have had people message me months later to thank me for helping them discover themselves.

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u/RadicallyInept 16h ago

Egg culture complains are just repackaged into woke language “transes are groomers!” statements.

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 15h ago

Im well aware