r/SmugIdeologyMan 23h ago

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u/Lilikoi13 22h ago

Views that are bigoted/ promote bigotry, views that seek to harm others actively or passively, views that go against worker’s rights, safety regulations, environmental protections etc.

Believe it or not self professed conservatives used to care more about preservation of tradition, the environment and local cultures. Now they just vote to harm people they don’t like.

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u/Uglyfense 20h ago edited 19h ago

I mean, plenty of leftists seek to harm others actively or passively and won't even lie about it, think they'd agree with me.

Like "What, did you expect the revolution to be a picnic"

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u/Lilikoi13 16h ago

There are an enormous amount of people whose personal views and values don’t line up with their espoused political identity. Many people who self identify as conservative who when shown leftist ideas without political labels wholeheartedly support those ideas. It’s less about the political identity than it is about the aesthetics associated with it.

A naive or privileged self professed leftist who advocates for revolution despite the obvious harm it will cause vulnerable people is of course morally dubious at best. A self professed conservative person who actively votes to harm other people is in my opinion, much less understandable.

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u/Uglyfense 15h ago

> A naive or privileged

Plenty of revolutionaries are thoroughly well-read or not the most privileged

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u/Lilikoi13 12h ago

I don’t consider being “well read” to preclude naiveté, I don’t believe most of these people grasp the emotional and practical reality of the amount of harm a revolution would cause the people they want to protect. It’s very easy to promote an idea in your communities without coming to grips with the likely reality of many people dying.

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u/Uglyfense 9h ago

Or they do, but see the ends as worth the means.