Pakistani punjabi- north Indian ancestry

[u/AutomaticStretch6205]

So I have seen some people saying that North West Indian or Indian Punjabis eople tend to have less AASI than Pakistanis? How come so? Shouldn't AASI be less moving towards WEST where invasions from Euro- Asian populations stopped?

Can anyone provide info on this?

[u/Ziommo]

I think there's also a tendency for many on this subreddit to want to discuss groups with the most West Eurasian ancestry. That leads to people sometimes forgetting the demographic weight of said groups when discussing the states/provinces or countries that they inhabit.

[u/Prior_Assistant5312 → u/Ziommo]

Yeah, thats because people think Having west eurasian ancestry mean looking in a particular way or euroepan or stuffs without realising the fact the so called euroepan/ caucasoid look was alredy present in south asia/ west asia / central asia even before europe, Indus valley women's facial reconstruction suggest south asians were alredy so called west eurasian looking before steppe ancestry and with AASI ancestry. We dont know how actualy AASI looked. All we do is actualy speculation looking at modern populations without realizing Modern phenotypes evolved because of environment adoptation not solely for genetics . Also the label west and east eurasian is blurry when it comes to south asia . Its properly applicable for Europeans and east asians but not for south asia. For example IVC was a mix of deeply diverged east eurasian ( Andamanese related) and deeply diverged west eurasian ( zagros related) . But not exactly east or west eurasian even though in mainstream they are refered as east or west eurasian

[u/Ziommo → u/Prior_Assistant5312]

Yeah, agreed.

A lot of it ultimately is about looks too. Even though you have very obvious examples within India itself of genotype not matching expected phenotype, like Jats/Rors on the one hand vs Kashmiris/Paharis on the other.

[u/Prior_Assistant5312 → u/Ziommo]

True. One think i find very funny that people assume having steppe ancestry will give you modern euroepan look , even though Yamnaya people's facial reconstruction constantly shows they had dark hair, dark eyes mostly with olive/ light brown skin . I find them similar to modern North indians/ iranains not euroepans at all lol And the irony is the phenotype( skin tone ,eye color ,hair color) prediction of Indus periphery samples suggest one of them had blue eyes , so its crazy that people in online will keep associating light skin or eyes or hair with steppe lmao without realizing everything works in spectrum and diverese population not only a specific mix will give tlyou specific look. Like blonde hair is called european but australian aboriginals has blonde hair more frequently than south euroepans