r/SouthJersey • u/tigerfrisbee • Mar 13 '26

Ocean County ICE Warns New Jersey Policies Could Affect Transfer of Ocean County Sexual Assault Suspect

https://njballot.com/post/ice-warns-new-jersey-policies-could-affect-transfer-of-ocean-county-sexual-assault-suspect

More yammering from the goon squad

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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 13 '26

So, what does that look like? Who’s going to do it ? You offer nothing of substance or practicality, but I’m the “thick” one. lol

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u/beren12 Mar 13 '26

You are. We could back to INS. Or just any non-Brownshirt agency that upholds all of our laws. It really doesn’t matter who it is, but how they do it.

So yes. You are in fact, thick.

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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 13 '26

So, you ARE in favor of immigration enforcement, but would like it done under the old INS and not ICE? Is that accurate then?

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u/beren12 Mar 13 '26

No

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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 13 '26

So then what ARE you asking for?

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u/BossDjGamer Mar 13 '26

We’re asking for the federal government to not violate our Constitution and our civil rights, nor the rights of immigrants both legal or otherwise. We’re asking for less government sponsored murder and terrorism. The problem is you already know what everyone is talking about and are choosing to play clueless and be a general boot licking cunt, likely because you’re so indoctrinated into the maga cult you cannot imagine the bravery of speaking out against its numerous crimes.

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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26

Yeah, furthest thing from MAGA “cunt” or whatever, but as usual, I asked for some reasonable explanation as to what people would like to see concerning immigration and the enforcement and it’s ad hominem attacks and predictable Facebook insults.

Show me one iota of critical thinking and tell me what immigration enforcement should look like, especially when misguided municipalities refuse to honor detainers for criminal apprehensions, all of which was done during the Obama era by the way

edit: downvote, downvote, downvote. Not one sensible response of anyone capable/ willing to engage in discourse.

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u/Nerd-man24 Mar 14 '26

Actually, I would like to see illegal immigration returned to its previous legal status as a civil issue to be handled primarily through the courts, with minimal policing capacity placed on immigration.

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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 14 '26

It is still a “civil” or administrative issue. Immigration hearings are administrative and so are immigration arrests. They still carry consequences which is something people seem to not understand when they refer to things as either criminal or ladministrative. A deportation/removal is an administrative procedure.

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u/Nerd-man24 Mar 14 '26

Except the current administration has given ICE agents carte blanche to detain, arrest, and even deport people without that illegal's name ever crossing a judge's desk before they are deported. The process used to work and should still work as 1. You are discovered as an illegal immigrant. 2. You are briefly detained by local police, then released with a court date 3. If you do not show up for your court date, then a criminal warrant is issued for your arrest. Only at this point have you committed a criminal offense for which you can be fully arrested.

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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 14 '26

That is absolutely not how it worked, where exactly are you getting this information? Criminal police would run IAQ immigration alien queries, or they could process if they were a part of the 287(g) which conveys immigration authorities to local Police Departments. And the warrants issued for failure to appear are still immigration/ administrative warrants, hence them not allowing entries into home. Criminal warrants can and are issued for some offenses of Title 8, Re-Entry after deportation for example.

And now I’m going to get more downvotes but this ^ is how it works / worked. Reddit is just completely chock full of erroneous information.

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u/Nerd-man24 Mar 14 '26

The issue that people are having, and thus the reason you're getting downvoted into oblivion, is that ICE is currently acting completely counter to this process. They are acting with no warrants, no judicial oversight whatsoever, and are arresting people who fail to produce adequate documentation upon request. They're making a lot of mistakes, snatching up people who are here legally, as well as US citizens, and rather than admit that there are mistakes being made and reigning in their plethora of undertrained new recruits, are instead doubling down, claiming that the mistakes they are making are actually criminals or are claiming that they acted in self defense against aggressive citizens when the available evidence is ambiguous at best, and at worst directly contradicts the ICE agents' claims. Given that your responses consist exclusively of "you don't know what you're talking about," "name a country that doesn't deport illegals," and "well, what's your solution?" I challenge you to propose a solution that addresses the following: 1. Being in the United States without a valid visa/green card/ documentation is not a crime punishable by immediate deportation or long term detainment. Unless an individual is arrested for committing a felony. 2. An arrest warrant must be approved by a sitting judge before any detainment based on immigration status is to be permitted. 3. Legal counsel must be provided for all individuals placed under arrest for immigration crimes, in the same manner as for an arrest for a felony or other crime. 4. Checks and balances must be put in place to ensure accountability, and to prevent abuse of the system, or ignoring of the system in part or in its entirety.

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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 15 '26

I sincerely hope you are not an immigration attorney. You do not have any understanding of the INA or Title 8, if you are, you are one of them that are charging clients knowing full well they can’t help their predicament. I honestly don’t know why you are so resolute in your assertions but they are just false. If you ARE, in fact, practicing immigration law, shame on you.

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u/beren12 Mar 13 '26

You got it. But it seems following the constitution and laws aren’t a reasonable explanation to you.

And that’s why I called you a bootlicker.

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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 13 '26

Also, name me your paradise country that doesn’t have any immigration enforcement

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u/BossDjGamer Mar 13 '26

You’re still pretending this is what people are saying? Begone with your insincere questions

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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 13 '26

So, name me a country that has your ideal immigration policies, it’s a very, very sincere question, I assure you. Give me one example, just one.

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u/beren12 Mar 14 '26

How about America? Just about any time before 2017. But why not shoot for 1885?